Posted on 05/22/2025 6:54:38 AM PDT by bitt
A constitutional law expert says Trump should do what Biden did: waive executive privilege to release Biden White House records.
Now that Jake Tapper and crew have had their epiphany about the meat puppet that periodically occupied the White House for the previous four years, it’s long past time congress find out who knew what and when about President Joe Biden’s addled mind.
The Republican-led House Oversight and Accountability Committee is preparing to hold hearings into what is shaping up to be the worst cover-up in U.S. presidential history.
Word this week that Biden has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer only underscores the necessity of multiple congressional investigations into who was actually running the White House as the president faded away before our eyes. While questions remain more than four and a half years later about who exactly elected Joe Biden president, one thing is certain: his stand-ins had no constitutional right to run the show.
“I want to know if he was actually the president of the United States. I want to know what actions are invalid. And then, of course, there are the constitutional questions that come into play,” Rep. Andy Ogles, R-Tenn., told me this week on The Federalist Radio Hour. “How do we address those things, if we can at all? And how do we make sure this never happens again?”
‘Lights Were On But Nobody Was Home’
Despite the gaslighting from Tapper and his fellow corporate media hacks insisting that they were tricked about Biden’s cognitive decline, Ogles said the former president’s profound senility was evident early on. The congressman noted a disturbing exchange he had with Biden moments before his last State of the Union Address.
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We need to find out who opened the borders for the illegal alien invaders. That bass turd needs to be hung.
But we’re still going to be stick with Ketanji Brown Jackson on the Supreme Court, right?
Darrell Issa, Trey Gowdy, and Jim Jordan will hold hearings!
eyes on the ball. the big issue here is the immense use of auto pen.
Note Trump makes a bid deal about public signing with a big fat pen to avoid the issue.
A coverup wasn’t needed. The establishment didn’t want to know.
25th §4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide…expresses the supreme desire of the sovereign American people not to again suffer from an incapacitated President, having experienced that in the final times of Presidents Wilson and FDR, and also Cleveland during his secret cancer surgery.
Plan A, oversight by VP and principal officers [= these 15: Secretary of State Secretary of the Treasury Secretary of Defense Attorney General Secretarybod of the Interior Secretary of Agriculture Secretary of Commerce Secretary of Labor Secretary of Health and Human Services Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Secretary of Transportation Secretary of Energy Secretary of Education Secretary of Veterans Affairs Secretary of Homeland Security] strongly appears to have FAILED. The 25th provides a Plan B, bolded above. Thus it is Congresses DUTY to establish whether Plan A did in fact fail, which duty should include the power to overcome claims of executive privilege potentially covering up a merely alleged executive. If so established, Congresses NEXT DUTY should be to to devise some body to replace Plan A's. What I don't know, but it's their job.
If failure of Plan A is established then also becomes the question of what happens to the alleged actions by the incompetent executive. No precedent for acting (alas some for ignoring) on that at this level but there must be some precedent and case law at lower levels. Review it before opening that Pandora's Box. Don't forget classically Hope was found within that box.
As important, maybe more so, is who all used autopen besides biden? All those edicts (not authorized by biden since he was mentally incompetent) must be rescinded.
The leftist deep state is trying to spin this as “everyone knew he was old” instead of “who the heck was making decisions and acting as President?”.
BTTT
Congress needs to investigate the election fraud that began the Biden Administration so it can be prevented in the future, then investigate the end of the Biden Administration (and its autopen) so that incapable Presidents can be properly replaced for the good of the nation and not just to protect partisan interests. Then, investigate the mid-portions of that Biden Administration monstrosity. Congress has its work cut out for it.
“eyes on the ball. the big issue here is the immense use of auto pen.
Note Trump makes a bid deal about public signing with a big fat pen to avoid the issue.”
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Presidential signatures are required on hundreds of documents and correspondence each day, regardless of who holds the office. Trump doesn’t sign all of them by hand, and neither have other presidents since Roosevelt.
If you’re planning to contest those orders signed with an autopen, you will quickly run up against the “De Facto Officer Doctrine,” which gives those holding an office all the authorities of the office, even if they’re later found unqualified for office.
https://www.sog.unc.edu/sites/default/files/reports/lglb124.pdf
“If failure of Plan A is established then also becomes the question of what happens to the alleged actions by the incompetent executive. No precedent for acting (alas some for ignoring) on that at this level but there must be some precedent and case law at lower levels. Review it before opening that Pandora’s Box. Don’t forget classically Hope was found within that box.”
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There’s no violation if the VP and cabinet don’t find any reason to invoke the 25th Amendment. That’s a discretionary act of judgement.
There is nothing to reverse the “actions by an incompetent executive,” particularly since he has not been found incompetent by his VP, Cabinet, or a court. In fact, the “De Facto Officer Doctrine” has controlled the law for the last 500 years (and yes, our Common Law system is a continuation of the English legal system in place before our revolution.)
Part of the strength of our Constitution is that much of it can be fairly well understood by normal people, including me, without a law degree. The above should be understandable. Whatever the precedents are for dealing with incapacitated officials in statuary and common law I don't claim to know. I'd guessed it's happened sometime someplace and thus that some kind of precedent existed, so recommended looking there first. I also presumed the writers of the 25th researched this and decided precedent alone was inadequate for dealing with Presidential incompetence before writing and ratifying the 25th.
You appear to understand the precedent and I'm inclined to accept you. Changing the 25th now, then applying new rules to Biden would be ex post facto, legal jargon a school kid can find in the Constitution and come to understand. Unconstitutional and I understand why that should be so. Googling "De Facto Officer" I suspect is as poor a research base as googling issues within my own medical specialty, but it provides some info and I can see how it avoids chaos. One reason there should be open Congressional hearings to consider revising the 25th §4 process is the public can be educated via hearings and debates and thus better accept whatever the final result becomes. Are there any De Facto Presidential actions taken without Joe Biden's participation that can be changed? Does it matter whether the De Facto actions were taken with good intent to avoid chaos or whether some were done in malicious will to cause KAOS? Understanding the limits of what can be changed and why will help us cope with the results. And if someone can dream up a better way to manage such messes going forward, an open process is more likely to gather enough support to accomplish it.
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