Posted on 05/19/2025 6:43:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
While some in the media attempted to portray the bomber of the Palm Springs fertility clinic as a right-wing anti-abortion zealot, the person taking credit for the bombing, Guy Edward Bartkus, 25, of Twentynine Palms, describes himself on X as a “pro-mortalist” which is an ideology that celebrates death and opposes the creation of all new life.
Pro-mortalism is the antithesis of the pro-life perspective. Unlike the pro-life viewpoint, which values all life as sacred from conception until natural death, the pro-mortalist believes that it is best for any human being to die as soon as possible. In fact, the true believer of this extreme example of the culture of death maintains that they are doing good works when they eliminate themselves and others. (RELATED: A Miracle Baby Is Surviving His Mother’s Brain Death, and the Left Is Outraged)
In fact, in his manifesto, Bartkus wrote: “I think we need a war against the pro-lifers. It is clear at this point that these people aren’t only stupid. They simply do not care about the harm they are perpetuating by being willing agents for a DNA molecule.” He continued: “I’m very against [IVF], it’s extremely wrong. These are people who are having kids after they’ve sat there and thought about it. How much more stupid can it get?”
For the pro-mortalist, every new human being only adds to the inevitable suffering on the planet; therefore, all births should be prevented. A fertility clinic is anathema to the true pro-mortalist because it is a site of the creation of new life. And although the Trump administration, which has promoted IVF, appears that it may not have thought through the profound complexities of this type of fertility treatment,...
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If they’re so anti life why don’t they simply stop consuming oxygen by going Jim Jones and offing themselves instead of all the trouble of building and planting explosives. East peasy🙄
Too many of you, just enough of me.
Note the inconsistency of whining that someone is just acting on behalf of their DNA, when their own judgment of that, according to their own beliefs, is just a case of acting on behalf of random collisions of matter in their cranium.
CS Lewis recognized the folly of trying to hold that the universe or anything in it was "unjust" if there was no transcendant moral authority to name it so; it forced him to abandon his atheism that had been based on his accusation that the universe was unjust. The latter was true, but could only be true if his conclusion (therefore there is no God) was false. Pro-mortalists are tripping around in the same contradiction that enmeshed Lewis in his youth.
Odd, how only human life is targeted by that group, not animals.
Why?
They reject the idea of God existing, so there should be, in their minds, no difference between humans and all other creatures. Yet, the difference IS there, in their minds. They are willfully blind and self-contradictory.
This brand of Nihilism appears, in my eyes, to be very Luciferian.
Yuck. Enough, already.
Ontology.
Epistemology.
Teleology.
My favorite Professor taught his students well.
The logical endpoints of incorrect presuppositions lends itself to contradictions.
These people are stupid.
It’s the type of Year 0 insanity that killed 1/4 of Cambodia’s population. Insane Cambodian communists inspired by their equally insane French communists mentors.
In times of social instability be very careful of the crazies.
“Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
-Voltaire from ‘Questions sur les miracles’ (1765) An actual French intellectual.
How Should We Then Live?: The Rise and Decline of Western Thought and Culture, by Francis A. Schaeffer, is a decent book to read for those who are unaware of the poison of Humanism.
The fertility clinic bomber, Guy Edward Bartkus, has the mentality that would have no problem gassing the Jews in those simulated shower rooms. He would have called the Jews carriers of defective DNA molecules.
Humans need all the DNA possible when they launch a mission to that new planet in the galaxy for the perpetual spread of humans through the cosmos.
“I am accumulating resources to help make life multiplanetary & extend the light of consciousness to the stars . . .” —Elon Musk
Back then we had to contend with first-generation humanism, which rejected the Lawgiver but tried to hold on to the notion of Laws. Now we have 2nd-generation humanism, which rejects both Lawgiver and Laws and believes in just making up whatever it wants to believe (such as asserting they can choose their own gender as an act of will rather than accept reality).
The bomber does not worship death. Instead, the bomber was tormented by an unhappy life.
The bomber questions the implied Right of human beings to create babies - because - the babies have not consented to being created or born.
Historically, he has a good debate point. Since the end of the last Ice Age - about 12,000 years ago - millions of babies and grown up humans have endured a horrifying life.
Also, the dead bomber implies that God has no right to create humans - because - no contract exists between God and the individual human.
Once again - the dead bomber was inexcusably malicious and reckless with the lives and property of other humans.
On the other hand, why does God, or two human strangers, get to decide if I exist - with ZERO in-put from me?
On the other hand, why does God, or two human strangers, get to decide if I exist - with ZERO in-put from me?
Life is a gift, apparently you need fresh eyes to see that....................
I disagree.
Life is an arbitrary decision - by God, or by two human strangers.
I was never consulted.
Without an irrevocable contract, I would never have agreed to be born.
https://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/2578/jewish/To-Be-or-to-Be-Not.htm
...If, as the School of Shammai maintains, our mission in life is to divest ourselves and our world of their material nature, then the initial state of our soul is also its most perfect state. Its corporeal embodiment is truly a “descent”-—a departure from its true essence and function...
...From the perspective of the Hillel school the ultimate function of a mitzvah [commandment] is to involve the physical creation, as it is, in the fulfillment of the Divine will. For a “dwelling for G‑d in the lowly realms” means more than physical deeds and materials being used to fulfill G‑d’s commandments. It also means that the very essence of physicality—the very features which render it lowly—are also enlisted to serve this end...
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