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‘An economic fallacy’: Rand Paul doesn’t see the benefits of tariffs
politico ^ | May 19 | By Amanda Friedman

Posted on 05/19/2025 1:48:49 AM PDT by RandFan

Sen. Rand Paul attacked the economic logic of President Donald Trump’s aggressive tariff strategy on Sunday — and agreed that the policies raise constitutional concerns.

The Kentucky Republican said Trump’s sweeping tariffs on foreign trading partners are based on “an economic fallacy” about trade deficits and objected to the president’s move to pursue them without congressional approval during an interview on ABC’s “The Week.”

“In the past, the court has allowed these things, but I think it’ll be an interesting thing because most tariffs in our history have been passed by Congress,” he said. “We’ve never had widespread tariffs that have been done by fiat by a president, and I object to that.”

Paul is one of a few Republicans who hesitated to rally around Trump’s “Liberation Day” tariffs on foreign trading partners, which the administration rolled out in early April. But Trump ended up backtracking on the high-stakes levies, issuing a 90-day pause on the tariffs for every affected country except China in April.

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“Now, we do have a long history, though, of both parties abdicating their responsibility on tariffs and granting power to Congress, which brings up another constitutional question, can Congress delegate powers given to it under the Constitution to the president?” Paul said.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: concerntroll; concerntrolling; paidbyusaconsumers; politicopostedinnews; randpaul; tariffs; taxonconsumers; tds; trollfan
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To: RandFan

Every dollar extracted from foreign labor (in the form of a tariff) is one less dollar that should be extracted from domestic labor (in the form of income tax).

Of course, with the massive deficit spending, that probably doesn’t matter since deficit spending is a means to collect taxes stealthily through inflation (which the government will understate as per procedure).


41 posted on 05/19/2025 5:11:52 AM PDT by meyer (The revolution isn't just beginning. It's already won.)
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To: RandFan

Seems a little common-sense would help Grandstand Rand figure it out.


42 posted on 05/19/2025 5:13:05 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Alberta's Child
You have no earthly idea what any of the objectives are. Nor do I or any of the so called business expert pundits on FOX. Why, because we are all basing our assumptions on what the Administration's mouthpieces say, and of course, they are all over the map. When they speak, their message is, in essence, to either assuage the concerns of average Joe or to send a message to various special interest groups. That includes Congress and the Courts.

Unless you are privy to private and classified discussions, you have no idea if tariffs serve a military or diplomatic purpose as well. Some have used Reaganomics to describe bad economic policy, yet working in concert with the DOD, Intel, and State, it bankrupted the former Soviet Union. Was that an unforeseen byproduct or done by intent? China's economy is not robust; it can, for now, handle the tariffs, but cannot indefinitely offset the damage that they have caused. Some talking head from the White House is not going to tell the public what role Defense and State play in any of this. It is possible some do not know themselves and can only repeat what they have been given for public consumption.

43 posted on 05/19/2025 5:13:38 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

McConnell owns Kentucky.
And neither he nor any of the rest of the delegation said a word when Beshear stole the election from Bevin using Dominion machines.

Beshear won because McConnell and his backers wanted him to win, and the same goes for the rest of the Kentucky delegation and possible much of the rest of the state.


44 posted on 05/19/2025 5:14:18 AM PDT by Farcesensitive (K is coming)
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To: rlmorel

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Derivative from extrapolation of the information you provided


45 posted on 05/19/2025 5:19:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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How hard did Rands neighbor hit him?


46 posted on 05/19/2025 5:40:26 AM PDT by deek69
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To: RandFan

Ask another eye doctor to give you stronger glasses Einstein.


47 posted on 05/19/2025 5:43:41 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: bert

I get your drift. I am trying to be cautious with Freepers I have known for a while-tensions have been high, and I don’t want to get crossways with someone over a relatively insignificant thing...:)


48 posted on 05/19/2025 5:44:01 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: Jonty30

As a practical matter, most countries and cultures are not capable of full scale industrialization. For them, raw materials and niche production are the best strategy. For the US, tariff and other trade barriers are needed to protect their markets and industrial capacity from being poached.


49 posted on 05/19/2025 5:48:46 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: RandFan

Boom. And there is the fallacy of the Libertarian party. No borders, isolationist, legalized drugs...


50 posted on 05/19/2025 5:59:25 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: RandFan

I don’t see the benefit of Rand Paul. Amazing how quiet these anti Trumpers were during OBiden years. Now they are all pretending they really care about the country and the American people. Now they want to control spending. Now they are concerned about the deficit. Baloney.


51 posted on 05/19/2025 6:02:18 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: rlmorel

I’m sure you must know Bert is one of our resident cranks. I skip her posts myself.


52 posted on 05/19/2025 6:08:53 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: bert; rlmorel
The statement quoted can be interpreted as an order rather than a Suggestion. It includes an implied but unstated threat

Stop making sht up bert.

53 posted on 05/19/2025 6:11:48 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: dennisw

God. Before Income tax we had tariffs and no income tax. We had balanced budgets. How then do we do it Rand? Tax us more?


54 posted on 05/19/2025 6:12:32 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: RandFan

Paul is correct on the raw economics, but there are goods that must be produced domestically in our enemies-laden world (weapons, drugs, electrical equipment, to name a few). Just not nearly as many as our domestic producers will lobby for.


55 posted on 05/19/2025 6:13:16 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: JayGalt

Walmart is also raising prices on US goods. They are profiteering. They deserve to be called out so that Americans can vote with their $ by supporting companies that are supporting the transfer to an American manufacturing base.
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Your remarks are warmed-over Bernie Sanders. They would turn the tariffs, which are designed to raise the prices of imported goods, into a tax on Walmart. America has much to lose by punishing great American companies like that just because you think they are making too much monery for their shareholders.


56 posted on 05/19/2025 6:32:06 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: RandFan

I think a certain level of Libertarian thinking is healthy for free market economy, but it cannot be the only and exclusive consideration on all economic and financial matters. The real world is not for Libertarian purists.


57 posted on 05/19/2025 6:58:20 AM PDT by Wuli (.)
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To: dennisw

Yah, he has been bought.


58 posted on 05/19/2025 7:58:05 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: RandFan

I see Rand is pissing into the wind AGAIN!

at one time, i thought Rand would make a fine President, but he has proven me wrong AGAIN ...


59 posted on 05/19/2025 8:00:35 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: subterfuge

I am sure people regard me as a resident crank sometimes...:)


60 posted on 05/19/2025 8:20:18 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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