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Once Banished From Trump’s White House, Zelensky Has New Hope
NY Times ^ | May 1, 2025 | Michael Crowley

Posted on 05/02/2025 6:14:56 AM PDT by McGruff

Feb. 28 was one of the darkest days for Ukraine since Russia’s invasion three years earlier. An Oval Office visit by President Volodymyr Zelensky meant to win favor with President Trump turned into a televised shouting match, prompting Mr. Trump to banish his guest from the White House without even serving him a planned lunch.

Mr. Trump was already a deep skeptic of U.S. support for Ukraine. But after the disastrous meeting with Mr. Zelensky, he accelerated his diplomacy with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, drafting a peace plan to end the war in Ukraine that offered major concessions to Moscow. Ukraine’s supporters were in panic.

But there is new hope in Kyiv.

A day after the Trump administration announced an economic deal with Ukraine that gives the United States a stake in its future mineral revenues, analysts say the country’s prospects look brighter than they have in months.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: beggarofkiev; gopisdone; greengrifter; hopium; littledictator; nyslimes; thereisstillhopium; trumpownsthewar; trumpswar; ukraine; zestinky

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1 posted on 05/02/2025 6:14:57 AM PDT by McGruff
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Full article here:

https://archive.ph/lIAuU#selection-689.0-709.146


2 posted on 05/02/2025 6:15:50 AM PDT by McGruff (Biden will go down in history as the worst president ever.)
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lol....Trump just wants this war to end. He despises this little p*** pot. Trump is easy to read on this one.


3 posted on 05/02/2025 6:17:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: McGruff
Feb. 28 was one of the darkest days for Ukraine since Russia’s invasion three years earlier.

Good times...


4 posted on 05/02/2025 6:19:40 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Sacajaweau
Trump just wants this war to end.


5 posted on 05/02/2025 6:21:51 AM PDT by McGruff (Biden will go down in history as the worst president ever.)
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More on the Ukraine rare earth deal......

The story goes that many of Ukraine’s mineral deposits are located in the “Ukrainian Shield,” a geological region spanning from Luhansk to Kharkiv. Specific regions like Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, Dnipropetrovsk, and Kirovohrad are known for their mineral resources.

The most touted legends are:
<><>”significant” reserves of various critical minerals
<><>lithium, titanium, uranium, rare earth elements, and graphite,
<><>along with other valuable metals and non-metallic minerals.
<><>resources vital for various industries, including electronics, energy, and defense.
<><>”substantial” lithium deposits, particularly in the Donetsk region, crucial for battery production.
<><>a “significant” share of the world’s titanium reserves, for aerospace, construction, etc
<><>”significant” uranium reserves, essential for nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons.
<><>”substantial” reserves of rare earth elements, vital for a wide range of high-tech applications.
<><>major graphite producer, in central and n/w regions, used in steel production, batteries, etc
<><>”significant” reserves: iron ore, manganese, nickel, cobalt, copper, lead, zinc, silver, other minerals.

Ukraine’s mineral resources are considered “critical” for global supply chains and are “essential” for various industries. The country’s mineral wealth has attracted significant attention and investment, with deals being made to access and exploit these resources.


6 posted on 05/02/2025 6:23:40 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray...."Our Father, who art in heaven......" )
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To: McGruff

I’m so tired of that guy and Ukraine.


7 posted on 05/02/2025 6:32:25 AM PDT by NavyShoe
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Sigh, the New York Times (see Tagline). Zelenskyy was never “banished” from the White House. Trump told him to return when he wants peace.


8 posted on 05/02/2025 6:40:03 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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He pressured Z.
He needs to pressure Vlad the Invader.

Time for peace, it’s best for all.


9 posted on 05/02/2025 6:40:07 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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--- "...we will no longer fly around the world as mediators in meetings. Now it is up to the two sides, the time has come when they must present and develop concrete ideas on how to end this conflict. "

Decades back, the idiot Geithner was giving congressional testimony about something, and complained and complained. When asked directly what HIS counter-proposal was, he stated (paraphrased), "We're only saying we don't like your plan. We haven't proposed anything."

The world is become a mess of "I don't like your proposal, but I don't know how to solve the problem."

One can engage. One cam disengage.

Modeling based on my era, drafted by LBJ, Vietnam brings "engage, escalate, then disengage." Ditto with Afghanistan of late. Same pattern is playing itself out.

10 posted on 05/02/2025 6:41:44 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Marc Lacey and Carolyn Ryan and Joseph Kahn ARE Hitler and anyone who writes for the paper is a fascist...


11 posted on 05/02/2025 6:50:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (Judicial robes aren't invisibility cloaks that allows judges to engage in criminal acts. J Turley)
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12 posted on 05/02/2025 7:26:00 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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Zelensky will break every promise and that will render the minerals deal worthless.


13 posted on 05/02/2025 8:36:13 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: Who is John Galt?

14 posted on 05/02/2025 8:36:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Liz

America needs to make a minerals deal with Russia.


15 posted on 05/02/2025 8:37:21 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: McGruff
There is no hope for Ukraine. They are going to continue to lose territory and lives fighting a war they can't win.

But, if we end giving more arms to Ukraine under Trump to continue it, it becomes his war and his debacle.

The minerals deal should only go into effect if Ukraine agrees to end the war.

16 posted on 05/02/2025 8:40:56 AM PDT by Kazan
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We don't need Ukraine's rare earth minerals.


17 posted on 05/02/2025 8:56:01 AM PDT by McGruff (Biden will go down in history as the worst president ever.)
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The minerals deal should only go into effect if Ukraine agrees to end the war.

The "minerals deal" is a face-saving measure for the United States. Nothing substantial will come of it or needs to come of it. Russia will get everything they originally wanted from the Ukraine war because of their use of superior military force. Plus, they will get a bit more than their original territorial objectives.

Yes, the Russians paid too much for what they won. But they won. The rest is now only details of the settlement negotiations.

The lessons of war are ugly and unforgiving. We must pick our fights more carefully. And we must adapt to new weapons, tactics, and strategies as we pick those fights.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war". (George Santayana)

18 posted on 05/02/2025 9:09:45 AM PDT by flamberge (Everybody's gonna hate it when we all play by the same "rules".)
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I'm sure you'll be right.

But, certainly shouldn't be wasting anymore money on military aid to Ukraine to continue this war. It's not only a waste of taxpayer money but also is only resulting in Ukraine losing more territory and lives.

19 posted on 05/02/2025 9:16:09 AM PDT by Kazan
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