Posted on 04/25/2025 9:04:30 AM PDT by Mariner
LONDON (Reuters) - Reuters has seen the text of a set of proposals on how to end Russia's war in Ukraine that were given to the U.S. side on Wednesday by Ukrainian and European officials at talks in London.
The text of the document is published in full with no changes.
OFFICIAL-SENSITIVE
Russia-Ukraine Deal Framework
Ceasefire:
(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...
They still insist on US security guarantees "similar to Article 5".
And EVERYONE ON THE PLANET knows that is a non starter.
If they want to make counterproposals, good. As long as they don’t involve US troops or money, go at it.
LOL Good luck with that one! They seriously expect the US to carry all the freight for security with no limit on troops or weapons. Russia pays to fully rebuild Ukraine and gives Ukraine land that is now part of Russia. What does Russia, the clear victor in this war, get...NOTHING. Ya, I think not.
Their plan is DOA.
Dan
4 hours ago
I think i have better chances of becoming a pope tomorrow than this peace deal moving forward.
I guess they think that if they keep proposing STUPID PLANS, the Russians will simply get tired of having to reject them and agree to something stupid.
While that did work for the gays (they told us that if we’d legalize their ‘marriage’, they’d get out of our faces - only to then come after our kids), I really doubt that will work with Russia.
“ Ukraine receives robust security guarantees including from the US (Article 5-like agreement), while there is noconsensus among Allies on NATO membership”
“ Ceasefire monitoring, led by the US and supported by third countries.
How nice of Europe to volunteer the United States.
Not only no, but...
Of course. Europe wants our (US) men and women to die for their machinations. F them.
The only security guarantee they will get will come from Moscow.
Don’t send proposals to us, sned them to the combabtants. We shouldn’t be telling them what’s fair or not. We should just cut both of them off from trade and finances. They don’t need us to stop their war.
wy69
Don’t send proposals to us, sned them to the combabtants. We shouldn’t be telling them what’s fair or not. We should just cut both of them off from trade and finances. They don’t need us to stop their war.
wy69
Now Putin should release his own counterproposal.
Cut them all off.
Behind closed doors, let them know their article 5 shield is over.
If they get into trouble, we’ll send a couple of fat generals with bunch of trannys to defend Europe...... with limited munitions.
They appear to be stuck on “let’s you and him fight.”
The US is their defense underwriter and without our backing NATO would cease to exist in short time.
None of the euro nations have balls. None of them. Not even the French that toot their horn: https://imgur.com/would-you-be-willing-to-fight-country-gallup-survey-pYQkLUi. There is neither support by the people nor political will. With Ukraine they simply shoot their mouth off because they aren’t bringing 10,000 body bags home.
None of them have the capabilities may it be scale in terms of sheer size (budget and manpower), strategic systems (space based, long range, carriers, missile defense, etc) or joint capabilities (NSA, NGA, CIA, FBI, etc.), the nuclear deterant, nor economic demographic, and resource growth capabilities.
We are the one that brings the “big club” to the table.
France is just a Chihuahua: https://pethelpful.com/.image/w_1080,q_auto:good,c_limit/MTc0OTY4NTc1MDA0NTE3ODI4/a-chihuahua-temperament-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly.jpg
The notion that Ukraine and its EU supporters are going to go on fighting if the US walks...is laughable.
Pure D BS.
The EU is just a concatenation of looters and moochers. The USA needs to shrug.
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