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Trump gives Zelensky dire warning on Russia-Ukraine war: Accept peace or risk ‘losing the whole country’
New York Post via MSN ^ | 4-23-25 | Diana Glebova, Caitlin Doornbos

Posted on 04/23/2025 12:13:28 PM PDT by bimboeruption

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To: Kazan

“Yanukovych was absolutely impeached ILLEGALLY without the necessary number of votes to impeach him.”

There had to be some international intrigue playing out in that impeachment. Yanukovych was a threat to the American and Nato “New World Order”.

I remember cringing when hearing Bush tout that principle when the Iron Curtain fell. The US always wants to be the biggest and bad-est one on the block. The US has no problem with imposing regime change whenever it wants, and it never turns out well.


41 posted on 04/23/2025 1:54:11 PM PDT by wiley (John 16:33: "In the world you have tribulation, but take courage ; I have overcome the world.")
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To: dennisw
The Maiden coup was fomented by us and the CIA and it setoff a civil war. It violated the Ukrainian constitution, which required Ukraine to remain neutral toward Russia.

Yanukovych was removed illegally, without the proper votes necessary to impeach him.

He supported, overwhelmingly supported --by margins over more than 40 percent -- by the people in Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk.

The people in the annexed area were absolutely under NO obligation to remain part of Ukrainian nationalist government hellbent on persecuting, killing and driving them from the homelands.

You're intentionally lying and spreading globalist and Deep State propaganda while defending the abhorrent actions of the Biden and Obama regimes and neocon scum like Lindsey Graham and John McCain.

This where lies come to die.

42 posted on 04/23/2025 1:54:16 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
The overwhelming majority in Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea refused to be part of a Ukrainian nationalist government that came to power illegally.

Then why did Russia block the referendum that Ukraine was planning in compliance with the Minsk accords? Russia only accepts those elections that they control the count. Some habits from the Soviet Union never go away, especially when the country is run by a former KBG agent.

43 posted on 04/23/2025 2:05:20 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Kazan

“The Maiden coup was fomented by us and the CIA and it setoff a civil war.”

Bullcrap. The Ukrainian people rose up and got rid of Yanukovych, the Putin stooge. He absconded to Russia with a billion dollars from the Ukraine treasury.

I ran your exact words through Grok3 — here is what really happened>>>
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Key Points
The claim that the “Maiden coup” (likely referring to the Maidan protests or Revolution of Dignity in Ukraine in 2014) was fomented by the U.S. and the CIA, and that it set off a civil war, contains elements of truth but oversimplifies a complex event.

The Maidan protests in 2014, which led to the ousting of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, were influenced by U.S. support through funding and political backing, but the protests were largely driven by domestic discontent with Yanukovych’s government.

The subsequent conflict in eastern Ukraine, often described as a civil war, was triggered by the power vacuum and geopolitical tensions following Yanukovych’s removal, exacerbated by Russian intervention, including the annexation of Crimea and support for separatists in Donbas.

While U.S. involvement contributed to the escalation, the claim overstates the CIA’s role in directly orchestrating the protests and ignores the agency of Ukrainian citizens and Russia’s significant role in the ensuing conflict.

Background of the Maidan Protests
The Maidan protests, also known as the Revolution of Dignity, began in November 2013 in Kyiv, Ukraine, after President Viktor Yanukovych rejected an EU association agreement in favor of closer ties with Russia. The protests, centered in Maidan Nezalezhnosti (Independence Square), initially demanded European integration but grew into a broader movement against Yanukovych’s corruption and authoritarianism.

By February 2014, violent clashes between protesters and state security forces, including the Berkut riot police, resulted in over 100 deaths, mostly protesters. On February 22, 2014, Yanukovych fled the country after parliament voted to remove him, and an interim government was installed, leading to Petro Poroshenko’s election later that year. [Web ID: 2] [Web ID: 5]


44 posted on 04/23/2025 2:08:57 PM PDT by dennisw (💯🇺🇸 Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. 🇺🇸💯)
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To: Kazan
I've never been to Russia.

One need not be from Russia to be a Russian nationalists. It is an ideology and you clearly demonstrate it with all your wild false claims.

You, on the other hand, freely admit you're Ukrainian.

I have never done so. Indeed I have denied it. As I have stated many times before, I am born and raised in the USA. Except for the three years I served with the US Army in Germany, I have lived my whole life here. By heritage I am Italian, not Ukrainian.

The warmongers in the EU and NATO have us closer to WW III and nuclear war because of their meddling in Ukraine than we ever were doing the Cold War.

There would be no war or threat of WWIII if the Russians just went home. No one wants to start a war with Russia, but no one wants to let the Russians just take over another country without resistance. All of this falls on the shoulders of Putin and no one else.

45 posted on 04/23/2025 2:11:08 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Kazan

“Yanukovych was removed illegally, without the proper votes necessary to impeach him.”

There was an uprising and coup against this thieving Yanukovych maggot after he aligned (tried to align) Ukraine with Russia instead of the EU, due to Putin bribes. Yanukovych was elected to have more trade and friendly relations with the EU. And he did this for a while, until Putin bribed him and probably threatened his life.

Clown, you go on forever about US intervention in Ukraine, when Putin has been doing this more intensively for years.


46 posted on 04/23/2025 2:16:25 PM PDT by dennisw (💯🇺🇸 Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. 🇺🇸💯)
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To: HombreSecreto

It’s a very easy way to make sure everyone knows Trump is an old man. It only takes a couple of commas a space and two numeric characters. They didn’t do that with Biden who was a doddering idiot which they covered up all too well. They also don’t tell us how old Zelensky is.


47 posted on 04/23/2025 2:35:27 PM PDT by webheart (Why not write out because instead of saying b/c and with instead of w/ ?)
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To: Petrosius

If the Russians just went home and Ukraine became part of NATO, as Kamala Harris said was a must when peace threatened to break out before Russia invaded?


48 posted on 04/23/2025 2:40:06 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: tlozo

Biden/Obama Admin war planning is finished. Trump’s first term was upended over Ukraine.

Zelinski gave the American people the middle finger telling the world he doesn’t owe the United States a dime. Ungrateful freeloader.

England has shown they are not allies of the United States when Republicans are in office. Starmer loves him some man-hug Zelinski being the Brit Bugger he is.

Zelinski has doubled down on stupid since his oval office visit. Even the French wrote his so called appology letter.

Trump is right. Let the Brit’s pay Zelinski salaries and pensions - Starmer still has 80% leftover from Brit pensioners, and they proved they don’t need winter heat.

Zelinski talks out of both sides of his mouth. News reporting from the Brits leaves out a lot of what Zelinski says to alter the context of his statements.

Trump has made it clear as of today to the Brits that the USA will not be drawn into the conflict in Ukraine. Trump did this with statements from JD Vance, and with restarting discussions in Moscow.

America is beginning to discover it has more in common with Russia than the English or Zelinski’s Ukraine who are unrepentant Facists Thought Police States without God.


49 posted on 04/23/2025 2:48:07 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Kazan

Exactly correct


50 posted on 04/23/2025 2:49:16 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: tlozo

So Trump certainly agrees with Russia. Evidence is that Panama acted just like Ukraine and they got their freedom revoked by the USG. China is now out, the US back in. The world will enter a period of USA, RUSSIA,CHINA, INDIA, all with their own zones of influence. Brazil and the EU are absent great power status because they lack the proper military component. In fact one might say that Israel is a Great Power.

Ukraine was sold to the Central Banks for pennies on the dollar. Blackrock was down for 380B which they are writing off and they got the first of the 11 BTC ETFs by which to recover their balance sheetss. When the FED authorized those ETFs over a year ago, the 11 ETFs approved were for the major contributors from the US in Ukraine as a way to recover losses. The world has known for a while Ukraine is lost


51 posted on 04/23/2025 2:54:17 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: tlozo

Ukraine is a corrupt hell hole.

Don’t care.


52 posted on 04/23/2025 2:57:57 PM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: Kazan
Answer the question: Is it possible to takeover a city of three million people with 40,000 troops?

With complete air superiority and little resistance those 40,000 troops with their tanks and apcs could take the city.

53 posted on 04/23/2025 3:00:53 PM PDT by tlozo
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To: Fledermaus
Ukraine is a corrupt hell hole.

Yup and Russia is more corrupt. Difference is Ukraine is a democracy.

54 posted on 04/23/2025 3:02:27 PM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

LOL LOL LOL

😂


55 posted on 04/23/2025 3:03:25 PM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: Fledermaus
LOL LOL LOL


56 posted on 04/23/2025 3:05:21 PM PDT by tlozo
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To: Kazan

Answer the question: Did Putin post a 5,000 world essay in 2021 on why Ukrainian statehood was a historical mistake?


57 posted on 04/23/2025 3:07:45 PM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

Canceled elections, banned churches, money laundering, playoffs to politicians, forcing citizens into the military, etc.

What a Democracy!

To hell with them.

Z is a stupid egomaniac crook.


58 posted on 04/23/2025 3:08:20 PM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: tlozo
With complete air superiority and little resistance those 40,000 troops with their tanks and apcs could take the city.

If that was true, then we know conclusively Russia had no intention of attacking Kiev.

Why would they have if wanted Kiev and could have taken it that easily?

You're making a fool of yourself.

59 posted on 04/23/2025 3:18:11 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: tlozo
Answer the question: Did Putin post a 5,000 world essay in 2021 on why Ukrainian statehood was a historical mistake?

I have no idea.

But, after Ukraine reneged on its Constitutional promise to be politically neutral in 2014, I can see Putin would feel that way.

You don't seem to grasp that there was no scenario where Russia was going to let Ukraine endanger its naval base in Crimea.

It would be no different with us if China tried to seize control of the Panama Canal. We'd take military to stop that.

Nor would we allow Russia or China to foment a coup in Mexico and install a government hostile this country while training, funding and arming a 600,000 man army on our border.

60 posted on 04/23/2025 3:21:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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