Posted on 04/07/2025 11:29:23 AM PDT by bimboeruption
Ukrainian-born U.S. lawmaker Victoria Spartz has said Ukraine should cede land to Russia, and its people should demand the resignation of President Volodymyr Zelensky.
In an interview with the Telegraph published on April 7, Spartz said Ukraine is not in a position to demand the return of all occupied territories. "If they were winning the war, that would be very different," she added.
Spartz was born in Chernihiv Oblast and moved to the U.S. in 2000. Elected to Congress in 2021 and 2024, she initially supported U.S. aid for Ukraine and has often spoken about the war in personal terms.
However, she has also criticized the Ukrainian government, particularly Zelensky and his chief of staff, Andriy Yermak.
Spartz, who has been a critic of both the Biden administration and the Ukrainian government, supported U.S. President Donald Trump’s call to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"There are no easy solutions," she said, placing blame on former President Joe Biden for what she sees as failed support.
"President Trump inherited it, so now he has to deal with it."
Commenting on the now infamous Oval Office clash between Trump and Zelensky, she accused the Ukrainian president of "insulting the American president" and doing a "disservice to the Ukrainian people."
Spartz went further, suggesting Ukrainians should vote Zelensky out of office in upcoming elections. "They will have an election, and then if they elect him, they’re going to lose the rest of the country," she said.
On April 4, 2024, The Wall Street Journal reported that Spartz would not support a new $60 billion Ukraine aid bill. She articulated "a lack of clear strategy" and the need for better oversight.
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From comedian to dictator...What's next for Zelensky?
So glad this Lady saw the truth. There has been enough dying over there.
Back to its historic roots. Carve it up to Poland, Hungary, Russia, Romania, Slovakia….what is left can remain as a rump nation state incapable of more trouble down the line.
Ukraine, has been nothing but trouble since becoming a “ nation” in 1991.
From comedian to dictator...What’s next for Zelensky?
I guess that depends if Vlad the Invader figures out that Trump just undercut the entire Russian Economy to a point that it’s destabilizing. That’s right, the price of oil just dropped. That’s the Russian economy. Who wants to risk ‘bootleg’ oil when the price is cheap anyway?
So to answer your question, maybe Zelensky will be the next General Secretary of Russia? That would be ‘funny’. I would prefer that Putin and Zelensky just went away, and people could have some peace.
>> Carve it up to Poland, Hungary, Russia, Romania,
>> Slovakia….what is left can remain as a rump nation state ??>> incapable of more trouble down the line.
What is your interest in this? All of this sounds like Radio Moscow talking points.
No American should “care” to see the Russian Empire (in any form, with a hammer & sickle, or with the Russian imperial eagle) restored or expanded.
Unless (I’ll give you the benefit of a doubt) you’re a Russian-American with strong ties to the Moscow narratives.
Or maybe you’re just a Russian citizen, Russian influencer posting here, furthering the goals of the Russian government.
You have been remarkably consistent.
One of the few who is clear eyed about Ukraine's future and see's through the neocon bull crap about "democracy".
She’ll probably be put on Ukraine’s death list now.
Would it be Munich 1938? Would Putin settle for just that? Every border country w/Russia should be armed to the teeth. Mandatory conscription. The countries further away won’t help.
Would Put settle for a slice of Ukraine? Yes. What he wants is where all the good stuff is—factories, mines, rich ore. If they don’t come to the peace table they may lose Oddessa and a port to the Black Sea. A pro-Russia Ukraine would be best for Putin— To sell natural gas and oil. But, the Baltics might be next on the list to dominate!
finally!
a congress critter showing signs of common sense
What is your interest in this?
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I prefer to not catch the Russian Derangement Syndrome, much like the Trump Derangement Syndrome, both invented by the Democrats.
The western MSM under Biden was corrupted, not so much with Trump now in charge. Having trained Ivan’s in Moscow for three years- they are not as the Democrats and Neo Cons want everyone to believe.
Take a trip there, you will see the Western narrative is false.
You have been remarkably consistent.
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The Truth always is.
“Having trained Ivan’s in Moscow for three years- they are not as the Democrats and Neo Cons want everyone to believe.
Take a trip there, you will see the Western narrative is false.”
Bring your own TP. Also, most outhouses do not have locks.
So says the “Emperor”
I’d say a Ukrainian should know, particularly one as well-connected as current politician that knows graft when she sees it.
“Unless (I’ll give you the benefit of a doubt) you’re a Russian-American with strong ties to the Moscow narratives.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4293708/posts#21
Putin would not have done this to me!
Ah, that makes everything clear! Thanks.
Very little of what is now Ukraine was part of any Hungarian or Romanian population area. Slivers of territory.
There was the eastern part of Czechoslovakia that was grabbed by Stalin and given to the Ukrainian SSR, but the Czechs and Slovaks didn’t care too much as that area, Zakarpattia Oblast — if we look at the Czechoslovak census of 1930 had approximately 725,000 people in Subcarpathian Ruthenia — Rusyns (Ruthenians): Approximately 62-63%;
Hungarians: Around 15-17%. Estimates suggest about 115,000 to 120,000 Hungarians lived in the region, concentrated mainly in areas near the border with Hungary, such as Uzhhorod and Mukachevo.
Jews: Approximately 12-13%. The Jewish population was significant, numbering around 90,000 to 100,000. They were a prominent minority, particularly in urban centers and towns, and were tragically decimated during the Holocaust after Hungary’s annexation of the region in 1939.
Czechs and Slovaks: About 4-5%
So for the Czechs and Slovaks it was no big deal to lose that land.
Now the biggest “loser” of the lands after WWII was Poland and that’s a tricky one.
Go back to the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth prior to its dismemberment in 1791, it was a multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, multi-religious state, not really a “Polish state” - the ruling elite were predominantly Polish, but not only - there were Lithuanian and Ruthenian elites ruling as well, but the cultural push towards Polonization was strong.
I looked at different censuses during the 19th century and it didn’t change too much from what it was before the II WW.
between 1920 and 1939 this area was predominantly “Ruthenian” i.e. East Slavic speaking, mostly Byzantine Catholic, but also Eastern Orthodox.
But that was not a super-majority - the cities were super-majority Polish, the towns were super-majority Jews and the Germans were a large component in the cities as well.
The “Poles” were also heavily “Polonized” locals - if you became Catholic or got educated and starting speaking Polish (the language of higher culture), you soon “became Polish”
The Ukrainian UPA were brutal, let me call it simply - monsters. They even horrified the Nutzis.
I can “understand” Ukrainians as putting Bandera as a “national hero”, like the Wallachians put Vlad Tepes (Dracula) as a national hero — when the Ukrainians had precious few other “heroes” (deviating - I note that Slovaks also have a paucity of national heroes due to being dominated for a millenium by its neighbors)
But while I “understand” it, I still condemn it as glorifying a monster.
Anyway, back to the point - Poland - neither the government nor the super-majority of people - no one wants this “Kresy land” - even the nationalists (Narodowcy) in Konfederacja would be happy to somehow magically get Lwow (arguably its foundation are Polish), but without the Ukrainians (that didn’t work so well).
Lwow was a Polish island in a sea of Ukrainian countryside and it was not sustainable as an exclave.
And even more so today - furthermore extending Poland’s borders so far east would make it indefensible, so no, Poland does not want that headache - and neither do Hungary, Romania or Slovakia
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