Posted on 03/24/2025 8:50:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Millions of Americans have started to or will soon see significant changes in their Social Security benefits as new laws and policies take effect in March 2025. Many individuals will be thrilled with the rollout of the Social Security Fairness Act—which repeals the Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset—triggering a wave of retroactive payments and monthly benefit increases for affected retirees. At the same time, controversial policy reversal means Social Security will resume withholding 100% of benefits to recover overpayments starting at the end of March.
Moreover, consequential changes are being implemented or proposed that could delay or deny benefits to millions of new retirees as well as cut payments to 170,000 individuals without a Social Security number.
Here's a breakdown of what's happening and what it means for retirees and other beneficiaries.
The Social Security Administration moved swiftly to implement the retroactive payments to people whose benefits were impacted by WEP/GPO, the agency stated in a late February press release. Most eligible retirees will receive a one-time lump sum for the retroactive amount by the end of March, deposited directly into their bank accounts.
This is not necessarily a small sum. As of early March, SSA reported it has already paid more than $7.5 billion in retroactive benefits to 1,127,723 people affected by the Fairness Act. The average retroactive payment so far is $6,710,
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Well, I don’t have any pensions, so I don’t expect any ‘windfall’ of added payments. I got my Social Security for March, at the usual amount, for which I am quite thankful.
Not complaining, in California.
How did they collect SS from, and then proceed to make payments to, people without a SS number?
That's like a bank account without an account number. A credit card without a credit card number.
Well, In a potentially less celebratory development, the SSA is reversing a pandemic-era policy on Social Security overpayment recovery. Starting March 27, the agency will reinstate its ability to withhold 100% of a person’s monthly Social Security benefit to claw back debts from past overpayments. This is a significant policy reversal from recent practice.
Under the Biden administration, SSA had capped most overpayment recovery to 10% of a beneficiary’s monthly check to avoid severe financial hardship cases. That gentler approach came after public outcry over stories of elderly and disabled beneficiaries seeing their entire Social Security checks suddenly taken to repay old debts—in some cases forcing them into poverty.
However, SSA says it will resume deducting 100% of a beneficiaries monthly check to recover new overpayments (those currently on an overpayment plan will continue to see a 10% withholding). In other words, if the agency claims you were overpaid Social Security benefits, it can take your entire benefit payment each month until the debt is repaid. This change was announced in early March and goes into effect at the end of the month for new overpayments.
The rationale is to reclaim funds more quickly, but advocates warn it could be devastating for those who rely on Social Security as their primary income. The Trump administration’s reversal of Social Security’s overpayment policy could significantly strain beneficiaries who are often unaware of the overpayments.
More taxpayer dollars going to stuff the pockets of those who need it least, i.e., those who retired with large do-nothing public-employee pensions.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Haven’t seen a penny yet but March isn’t over.
I'm still working full time. My wife has processed W4P with SSA and her pension payers. It's 3 months into the year and no withholding yet. Hopefully having 9 months of correct withholding will catch up enough for tax year 2025. I should get the retirement process underway. It will be a huge reduction in income, but we have all of our debts retired. It's just living expenses now. Hopefully the changes noted in the article for this thread won't negatively affect my own retirement.
This sounds like something Elon would promote. I hope that particular policy is revised yet again. 100%!! Yes, an overpayment should be recouped, but many seniors, including myself, rely on that base amount being available every month.
I say Elon, because, I suspect he has never been without substantial liquid cash assets.
To: SeekAndFind
Translation into English from Forbesish:
More taxpayer dollars going to stuff the pockets of those who need it least, i.e., those who retired with large do-nothing public-employee pensions.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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thanx for the translation
more gravy for double or triple dippers?
Who signed this into law? (Biden)
Who will get the blame if this goes sideways? (Trump)
The Social Security Administration moved swiftly to implement the retroactive payments to people whose benefits were impacted by WEP/GPO...
The article is full of too much unexplained acronyms, technical gobbledegook for me. Guess I will find out what happens to the old SS payment when it hits bank.
Fun stuff when you are on a limited income. Will it be a hit? Or a miss?
“The bipartisan Social Security Fairness Act was signed into law, ending the WEP and GPO provisions that had reduced or eliminated benefits for over 3.2 million public-sector retirees. WEP and GPO affected many teachers, firefighters, police officers, and other workers with pensions from non-Social Security-covered jobs. “
so, my question is did these folks pay into SS at one time or other?
because in Colorado, government workers belong to a State retirement program, PERA, that substitutes for SS, and the employees do not pay into SS, but instead theoretically pay for PERA instead ...naturally, PERA’s unfunded liabilities are currently estimated at $27.5 billion ... sort of like the State version of SS unfunded liabilities ...
Will the Obozo’s SSN be investigated?
It’s taken years, but my withholding has finally balanced out. Last year, I finally satisfied an installment agreement dating back to 2017. Very glad that’s over with.
She wanted to continue with the installment agreement, due to the lower interest rate. That drew a vociferous reaction from me.
I have no pensions, either. I received my usual SSI payment in March as well. That’s all I have to get by.
I owed SS $17,000 back in 2018 because I got a full time job a year after I took early retirement. When I quit 18 months later, SS kept my entire check for over a year to claw back my overpayment. It was tough but I survived.
What's that all about?
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