Posted on 03/22/2025 10:02:56 AM PDT by aspasia
OpenAI and Google, having long trained their ravenous bots on the work of newsrooms like this one, now want to throw out long established copyright law by arguing, we kid you not, that the only way for the United States to defeat the Chinese Communist Party is for those tech giants to steal the content created with the sweat equity of America’s human journalists.
“With a Chinese Communist Party determined to overtake us by 2030,” OpenAI wrote last week to the federal Office of Science and Technology Policy, “the Trump administration’s new action plan can ensure that American-led A.I. built on democratic principles can prevail over CCP-built, autocratic, authoritarian AI.”
Built on democratic principles? More like built on outright theft.
That’s why news organizations, including this one and The New York Times, have sued OpenAI and its partner Microsoft over their breaking copyright law by vacuuming up millions of newspaper articles without permission or payment, constituting copyright infringement on a colossal scale.
(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...
I read and learn from stuff all the time. Am I guilty of copyright theft?
I think one can make the argument that training an AI is a lot like teaching a human.
How does a human learn to tell a good story? They read other books. And with that they gain knowledge of what people like and don’t like in certain genres.
How is this different than training an AI?
I’m sick of seeing AI videos.....now you have to muddle through the Nonesense and Fakery!
Sweat equity? Come on man, all these so-called journalists do is parrot Democrat party talking points!
Write like a bot. Be replaced by a bot.
News Corp, the media giant that owns The Post and the Wall Street Journal, believes “courtship is preferable to courtrooms,” according to its CEO Robert Thomson.Last year, the company struck a content licensing deal with OpenAI reportedly worth more than $250 million that included guardrails to protect its work.
“We would prefer to woo rather than sue, given that lawyers are the big winners in litigation,” Thomson said last July. “But, be warned, if we don’t woo you, we may very well sue you.”
If you write basically the same thing you read and then publish it for money yes absolutely.
Because AI doesn’t learn, it lifts. If you take 6 paragraphs from different stories about the same thing and put them together without CREDIT that’s stealing. And that’s basically what modern AI is doing.
That copyright pig left the barn 30 years ago. Tribbaboons good for a laugh still.
That’s not what it’s doing though. It won’t give you the same paragraph it learned from.
And people write books all the time from material they “learned” their style from. So if I write a horror story do I have to give Stephen King credit because I read his books?
In protest against high tech, the Chicago Tribune burned all of its computing devices and network gear, in a large bonfire at the center of the rooftop parking lot.
"According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, at least 40 states introduced AI bills during their 2024 legislative sessions."
Fixed. Consider it damages for nearly 100 years of their own Marxist theft of American resources.
Furthermore, that one sentence-long paragraph wouldn't be worth tree-fiddy if measured in nanocoin. Aside from parroting talking points -- maybe the DNC will join as an aggrieved party -- you don't think the MSM rewrite their competitors pieces? LOFL.
Finally, how much Trib gunk is fouling up my precious LLMs? So I can remove the stain. Let's have the evidence. Let's have the facts.
LOL, the “sweat equity of journalists”. How much of what they publish was just handed to them by the CIA? For that matter, that they then published without attribution? I.e. plagiarism.
That’s right. All those second-rate trade publications do name dropping to show that they are in the know. They’d be foolish not to mention Steve Jobs in a tech article.
“Hey, but wait. That reputation was hard earned money,” says Steve. “If you quote my name, you’re earning off my reputation that I acquired solely by myself. Pay me or cease and desist!
You beat me to it. When you read exactly the same words and phrases from multiple journalists simultaneously, that isn't originality and they don't own them any more than a parrot does.
It is what it’s doing though. Our current “AI” are NOT learning engines. Their large language processing engines that suck in stuff around keywords and spit out basically the same stuff. There’s a reason these writers can look at the AI output and find their own text, because AI is plagiarizing. If Stephen King could read your story and say “well that character came from me, and plot line came from me, and that whole chapter came from me” then yeah you better give him credit, and money. Just look at Harlan Ellison’s Terminator lawsuit.
You didn’t fix anything. You made crap up that has nothing to do with the discussion. I can’t even figure out what you’re trying to say.
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