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We Were Badly Misled About the Event That Changed Our Lives
The New York Times ^ | March 16, 2025 | Zeynep Tufekci

Posted on 03/17/2025 5:46:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Since scientists first began playing around with dangerous pathogens in laboratories, the world has experienced four or five pandemics, depending on how you count. One of them, the 1977 Russian flu, was almost certainly sparked by a research mishap. Some Western scientists quickly suspected the odd virus had resided in a lab freezer for a couple of decades, but they kept mostly quiet for fear of ruffling feathers.

Yet in 2020, when people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the Covid-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Many public health officials and prominent scientists dismissed the idea as a conspiracy theory, insisting that the virus had emerged from animals in a seafood market in Wuhan, China.

And when a nonprofit called EcoHealth Alliance lost a grant because it was planning to conduct risky research into bat viruses with the Wuhan Institute of Virology — research that, if conducted with lax safety standards, could have resulted in a dangerous pathogen leaking out into the world — no fewer than 77 Nobel laureates and 31 scientific societies lined up to defend the organization. So, the Wuhan research was totally safe and the pandemic was definitely caused by natural transmission: It certainly seemed like consensus.

We have since learned, however, that to promote the appearance of consensus, some officials and scientists hid or understated crucial facts, misled at least one reporter, orchestrated campaigns of supposedly independent voices and even compared notes about how to hide their communications in order to keep the public from hearing the whole story. And as for that Wuhan laboratory’s research, the details that have since emerged show that safety precautions may have been terrifyingly lax.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; China; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1977; 2019; 2020; ccp; coronavirus; covid; covid19; covid1984; drivebymedia; fakenews; lableaktheory; newyorkslimes; nonbreaking; pandemic; redchina; sarscov2; scamdemic; shamdemic; stuckoncovid; tyranny; wuhan; wuhanlab; zeyneptufekci
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1 posted on 03/17/2025 5:46:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

What we learned is the more educated a person is formally, the less educated they are about natural consequences.


2 posted on 03/17/2025 5:53:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I have invented blackened salmon salad by baking it in the oven for too long. )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Misled? Where I come from we call that “being lied to.”


3 posted on 03/17/2025 5:55:18 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Believe nothing from the NY slime. Never forget Walter Duranty, and there are others. This is nothing more than propaganda, propaganda aimed at useful idiots and unfortunately, they are legion.
Mark 5:1-20:

Jesus Restores a Demon-Possessed Man

5 They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes.[a] 2 When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3 This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. 4 For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.

6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7 He shouted at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? In God’s name don’t torture me!” 8 For Jesus had said to him, “Come out of this man, you impure spirit!”

9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”

“My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” 10 And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.

11 A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12 The demons begged Jesus, “Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them.” 13 He gave them permission, and the impure spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.

14 Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened. 15 When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid. 16 Those who had seen it told the people what had happened to the demon-possessed man—and told about the pigs as well. 17 Then the people began to plead with Jesus to leave their region.

18 As Jesus was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon-possessed begged to go with him. 19 Jesus did not let him, but said, “Go home to your own people and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.” 20 So the man went away and began to tell in the Decapolis[b] how much Jesus had done for him. And all the people were amazed.


4 posted on 03/17/2025 5:56:20 PM PDT by Fungi
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LOL- and it was the criminal liberal media such as the NYSlimes who propagated those lies misleading us...


5 posted on 03/17/2025 5:56:34 PM PDT by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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All because Trump could not be right.


6 posted on 03/17/2025 5:57:23 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: MinorityRepublican

First of all, what is a, ‘Zeynep Tufekci?’

Secondly - Duh. (Re: The article).

Third? I cannot believe this is from the New York Slimes! WOW!

Thanks for posting.


7 posted on 03/17/2025 5:57:43 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/14/covid-tyrants-were-perpetrators-not-victims/


8 posted on 03/17/2025 5:58:00 PM PDT by lightman (Beat the Philly fraud machine the Amish did onest, ja? Nein, zweimal they did already!)
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Justice is not done until Fauxci and everyone who pushed the fake vaxx on us is locked up.


9 posted on 03/17/2025 6:03:22 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"-Voltaire)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The NY Times was paid $14 Million dollars by the government to report the news, and all we got was "misled", and a subscription discount?

No. I think the government got exactly what it paid for, and that was to print what we tell you.

11 posted on 03/17/2025 6:03:38 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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Me-too-ism from the New York Times? Ya don’t say… 🙄


12 posted on 03/17/2025 6:04:16 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Anyway… Wake me when they finally turn on Fauci.


13 posted on 03/17/2025 6:05:05 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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“kooks and cranks”

Hell, no! Not just that. They were lied to and about. Many lost their jobs! Many lost their professional credentials without due process!

Millions endured forced injections of poisons, lest they not be able to care for their families! These actions viciously buried the truth and kept the masses in the dark while the ignorant could spout propagandists’ lies with impunity.

This cudgel of “conspiracy theorist” MUST be abolished as a weapon, and not allowed to continue as being rightly painting everyone so labeled being of low-intelligence that everyone should be free to ignore, punish and ridicule.

Only now some people are waking up and acting as if they always followed those most knowledgeable leading scientists and eschewed mistreating their fellow man. FAR TOO LATE have such people changed their minds and ways.

And no, they may not bask and signal their presumed virtue.


14 posted on 03/17/2025 6:09:42 PM PDT by rx
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To: Fungi

I’d like to Give you an Amen BUT NO!

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I’m not sure what’s the connection!?!
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Your in the Bat Soup or Legions.?
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15 posted on 03/17/2025 6:09:51 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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Chicken soup with tarragon...


16 posted on 03/17/2025 6:14:22 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: MinorityRepublican

And the NYTs was the biggest misleader (liar) in all of that fraud.


17 posted on 03/17/2025 6:16:03 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yet in 2020, when people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the Covid-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Many public health officials and prominent scientists dismissed the idea as a conspiracy theory, insisting that the virus had emerged from animals in a seafood market in Wuhan, China.

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Just as a matter of probabilities, with 1000s of wet markets in China, why would anyone think it only a coincidence the virus would emerge from a wet market in Wuhan, where the pathogen lab was? On the face of this probable lie, it just doesn’t make sense probability wise. It always should have been upon China to prove it did not emerge from the lab! Why did our government assist China in the coverup?


18 posted on 03/17/2025 6:16:18 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Fungi

IDIOCRACY Amigo.


19 posted on 03/17/2025 6:16:39 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The NY Times you say?

Video
2013: Fauci talks about gain of function research and why it would be funded . At 4:20 Slide is shown from New York Times editorial “An Engineered Doomsday” which pointed out if a virus escaped a lab it could kill millions.
https://rumble.com/vid4lb-anthony-fauci-presents-gain-of-function-research-on-viruses-2013.html


20 posted on 03/17/2025 6:16:39 PM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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