Posted on 03/14/2025 10:25:00 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Amazon, Google, and Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta have joined a growing list of energy-intensive companies calling for governments and utilities to triple nuclear power capacity by 2050, signaling a significant boost for the nuclear industry’s revival.
The Financial Times reports that tech giants Amazon, Google, and Meta have stepped forward to support the goal of tripling nuclear power capacity by 2050. The companies, along with oil group Occidental and chemical producer Dow, signed a pledge coordinated by the World Nuclear Association (WNA), an advocacy group for the sector. This move follows a similar pledge made in September by 14 of the world’s largest financial institutions, including Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Barclays, and Morgan Stanley, to increase their support for the nuclear industry.
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Will they pay to renew Yucca Mountain?
Is it THEIR nuclear capacity or ours?
Better late than never.
I wonder how much of the anti-nuclear hyperbole was funded by the Soviets.
We know today’s Greens in Europe get significant funding from the Russians.
Will they pay to renew Yucca Mountain?
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All the while your secret government hides ‘free energy.’ Trump touts ‘drill baby drill’ while they’re sitting on ‘free energy.’ They won’t release free energy until BIG OIL has pumped and sold its last barrel. So much for transparency! It’s called choreographing the world for humanity’s own good. We would just not be able to handle it otherwise, don’t ya know.
I have not seen where the safety hazards of creating nuclear FISSION have been resolved. Since gov’t shows a great degree of lack of rationality and accountability, I’m against nuclear fission energy because of its unresolved dangers in production and waste management.
However, once the production problems with creating nuclear FUSION are resolved, nuclear fusion looks pretty good.
Going to put in SMR’s to power their data centers. Skynet gonna have their own network of reactors. Hope thats a good thing.
The most greedy anti American corporations in the world in charge of the greatest insanity in the world. What could go wrong.
They won’t release free energy until BIG OIL has pumped and sold its last barrel.”
There is enough to last a thousand years.
“Going to put in SMR’s to power their data centers. Skynet gonna have their own network of reactors.”
That is exactly right. They will suck up every bit of available power to enslave us.
POTUS can renew Yucca Mountain, by telling the judges to pound sand. The “legal” objection that ended the opening of Yucca Mountain nuclear depository was made on the scientific opinion that the local and storage methods were only going to be safe for 1,000 years.
That ignored that any methods at Yucca Valley were infinitely safer than most spent-nuvlear-fuel storage in the U.S. now - on site at the sites it was used, and that certainly over 1,000 years we would be able to devise even safer solutions than Yucca Valley.
The POTUS should tell the courts, we will go ahead with Yucca Mountain and see you in litigation for the next 1,000 years. During that 1,000 years we will likely find some orher means and method, but not immediately. We might even find means and methods that satisfy any objections about Yucca Mountain. Meanwhile Yucca Mountain is safer than current storage methods and, for the immediate term, must be implemented.
There is enough to last a thousand years.
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Another thousand years of slavery, working for the Cabal choreographers.
I don’t know WTH you are talking about. There is enough petroleum based energy to last a thousand years. Some even believe it continues to be created even as we use it.
Hippies to get the vapors in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
Burn baby, burn.
...they need it for their data centers, no BS.
I don’t know WTH you are talking about. There is enough petroleum based energy to last a thousand years. Some even believe it continues to be created even as we use it.
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Let’s start with the government’s 80 + year old coverup and ridiculous, shaming tin foil accusations that UFOs were a figment of our imagination. Now, finally the government is eating crow and admitting that they exist. Follow on question: Since they exist, now ponder what is the power source that permits them to travel intergalactically? My approach is called deductive reasoning, rather than listening to government propaganda. I assume you are comfortable in expending your hard earned money when you go to the gas station or when you heat and cool your home rather than having free energy to do it for you. Your ‘wonderful’ government knows about free energy as they know about UFOs.
“Will they pay to renew Yucca Mountain?”
Yes every kwh that leaves the plant gate of a nuclear reactor in the USA by Federal law had a charge for disposal attached too it. This includes any private contract its measured as the energy leaves the plant gate not at the retail meter the wholesaler pays it and passes it on top the consumer in most cases. In Amazon at al the plant OP will charge it as an O&M expense and pass it on to Amazon or whoever get the electrons after it leaves the plant gate.
“The Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1982 established a fee of one mill (0.1 cents) per kilowatt-hour (kWh) of electricity generated by nuclear power plants to fund the Nuclear Waste Fund”
The language is pretty clear its every kWh that leave the plant.
That fund is used to fund all disposal not just the boondoggle in Nevada , dry cask storage too. Dry casks are good for 100 years each and can be transferred to a new cask if needed.
You could sleep next to a dry cask and famously one of the NRC workers who was pregnant took pics and video of her not only walking through a dry cask site she put her baby bump against the side of one. The rads you get next to one are less than laying out in the sun in most beaches and a lot less than any black sand beach in Hawaii or India where you have basaltic or monazite sands.
Nuclear waste properly known as spend fuel is 96% fuel still. It is a crime against humanity to just bury it and walk away from thousands of years worth of energy. Spent fuel is a political problem not a technical one.Jimmy the traitor Carter hurt America by eliminating our reprocessing tech and expertise for political reasons. France and Russia lead the world with China not far behind. We have to be Russia mother may I please have some HALEU for fast spectrum reactors. The one in Wyoming is in hold because of us being at war with Russia and France saying no to giving us any HALEU or PU.
The Nevada site is a colossal boondoggle, it never should be used as a Hydro Geologist it is flawed from the very beginning it has significant ground water flows through it and it sits ABOVE ground water flows. This is the absolute worst idea in human history and as a Hydro with a PhD I will get in front of Congress and protest it with expert conviction.
If we are going to deep geological store spent fuel without reprocessing first the place to put it is in impervious shales miles below ground water that have been geologically stable for at least 200 million years or solid below any ground water by miles of earth granite that has been stable for over a billion.
What should be done is dry cask storage till reprocessing can be done to remove the fission products then the 96% goes into a fast spectrum reactor to burn out 100 times the energy you got with PWR or BWR fuel cycles. The only thing coming off of fast reactors with fuel processing is fission products that need 300 years not a million to decay to below natural uranium levels the standard for disposal and time.
“There is enough petroleum based energy to last a thousand years. “
No flat out you’re wrong. As a industry professional with 20+ years in nearly every basin in earth you are just wrong sorry.
We have 47 years at 2022 production rates of liquid hydrocarbons. That’s resources not reserves know the difference. Coal if it had to replace at great environmental impact the 600+ exajoules of primary energy that 2 billion use 80% coal lasts a couple hundred years, less if the other 6 billion who live on less than $10 a day and do not burn much, get access and start using at EU levels of living standards.
It’s flat out a myth we have unlimited or thousands of years we have 50 at most , and a couple hundred years of coal. Natural gas is the wild card if we use it for bulk power like now we have 80 years at most world wide a lot less in North America. Shale gas is a classic bubble big at first then peak then crash , every well follows the same production curve cycle the data is easy to find I see it every day it takes a few seconds of Google to see the curves if one looks for them. The USA in a epic.profit driven shortsighted approach is also going to export in bulk the very gas we will need later to make medications and fertilizers with for corp profits today.
I would love to see a peer reviewed and approved source that shows we have 102
0.2 million bbl per DAY or 36.57 billion bbl per year over a 1000 year period. That’s 36 and a half TRILLION barrels of recoverable oil at economically viable prices. Do you realize how absolutely loony toons that sounds and more importantly IS. There is about 1.8 trillion bbls technically recoverable at any prices and only 13 trillion or so original oil in place. Oil is bound to pores and grains by physics the weak and strong nuclear force put a fundamental limit on what is even theoretically recoverable.
Even if you include, tarsands 500 billion, heavy oils and asphalts like Venezuela 1.2 trillion and Oil Shales(immature kerogen) not Shale Oil(Midland Basin) you have 1.2 trillion each OIP [original oil in place] the recovery rates are miserable for heavy oils they don’t flow and you have to burn natural gas to heat steam to produce them the EROI is under 5 and in some cases negative. Clearly you cannot run a 600+ exajoule world let alone a 5000 (8 billion humans consuming at EU levels of living) one with EROI of 5 or less its mathematically impossible. That’s just for heavy oils and asphalts, the only reason they are being produced is natural gas is super cheap and they don’t care if they burn 1:1 if gas is $3 mmbtu and oil is $70 it costs you $17 in gas to get $70 in oil energy consumption be damned but this oonly works in the short term.
No one has successfully recovered commercial volumes of Shale Oil you have to heat the shale to over 500 degrees and hold it there for hours or days depending on how high you heat it. Then you get lots of off gasses and some liquid hydrocarbons and a tons of now larger in volume popcorn shale full of heavy metals and other nasty things you can’t just dump it, it has to go to a hazmat land fill. Plus you have to strip mine the shale to to get at it using huge diesel powered equipment. The EROI is almost always below 2 and largely negative if you include the heating energy.
Shell tried the underground in situ method drill six to eight bores put down electric or gas fired heaters. Heat the whole rock package for nearly a year to over 500 degrees then push steam heated again with gas down the outer bores driving what they hoped was liquid hydrocarbons to the centers recovery bores...yeah so much energy and costs they abandoned it as completely uneconomic and also energy negative.
Again please share with the class a peer reviewed and approved source where we have 36 plus trillion bbls of even recoverable hydrocarbons at any prices.
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