Storm Shadow missile attack in Kursk, Russia. Posted on 03/06/2025 1:08:37 PM PST by SoConPubbie
When Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky lit himself on fire in the Oval Office, US President Donald J. Trump warned him sternly: ‘your problems begin now’.
And indeed, shortly after that, the US stopped all military aid to Kiev, and right after that, stopped sharing military intel – and forbade the NATO Allies from sharing any US intel with the Ukrainians, too.
Without the information gathered by US satellites, spy planes, surveillance drones and intel assets, Ukraine can only hit static, ‘low hanging-fruit’ targets.
Trump’s ban on sharing US intelligence with Kiev via the ‘Releasable to Ukraine’ program is dealing a serious blow to Zelensky’s war effort.
Sputnik reported:
“Ukrainian military’s command and control capabilities have become increasingly dependent on intel supplied by the West. Without this information, Kiev’s ability to plan combat operations will be severely degraded.
Using high-precision weapons such as ATACMS and Storm Shadow will become problematic, because in order to use them to hit some sensitive Russian target, one must first locate it.”Storm Shadow missile attack in Kursk, Russia.
The Ukrainian air defense effort will equally suffer greatly if information is not supplied about the Russian missile launches and airstrikes.
“Critical Ukrainian assets will become more vulnerable to Russian attacks as without adequate intel Kiev will be left guessing which high-value target will be hit next.
Without data about Russian troop movements, Ukrainian command will be hard-pressed to anticipate and counter further Russian offensives.”
Trump dives a very hard bargain, something Zelensky is finding out.
Read: BREAKING – Zelensky Grovels to Trump After US Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine
The Telegraph reported:
“Ukraine’s most powerful missiles were left frozen on Wednesday after the US cut off intelligence-sharing and demanded fresh talks with Volodymyr Zelensky. Crucial intelligence for long-range missiles such as Himars, which have been key to holding back the Russian offensive, went dark at about 2pm on Wednesday.”
After Zelensky threw a spanner in the works of the minerals deal, and it was put on ice, Zelensky is rumored to now have to offer ‘additional concessions’ to get talks restarted.
“Ukraine was left exposed on Wednesday when it emerged that intelligence-sharing had been cut. The US also told allies including Britain not to pass on American intelligence to Kiev. John Healey, the Defense Secretary, was due to meet with his US counterpart on Thursday.
‘President Trump had a real question about whether President Zelensky is committed to a peace process’, John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, said on Wednesday. ‘He said let’s pause. I want to give you a chance to think about this, and you saw the response, President Zelensky put out a statement saying ‘I am ready for peace’’.
[…] A Ukrainian defense source described the American decisions on weapons and intelligence as an attempt to ‘blackmail and aimed at pacifying Ukraine by reducing its defensive capabilities’.”
Read more:
Trump BANS UK and Other Allies From Sharing US Military Intel With Ukraine
GP? Theyre pretty reliable and I’ve read this elsewhere...BUT...
The US also told allies including Britain not to pass on American intelligence to Kiev. ...
Do we still trust Britain? I never thought i’d ask that.
With a Muslim King?
I don't think DJT ever said this; I have watched the whole 50 minutes of the Oval Office meeting and I have watched the fireworks part (the last 10 minutes) more than once.
Any article that begins with “when Zelensky lit himself on fire in the Oval Office” is a keeper for me! 😆
Of course it was. I’ve been saying this for two years. We should be thanking Putin for not nuking us as we’re legitimate war targets
“After Zelensky threw a spanner in the works of the minerals deal, and it was put on ice, Zelensky is rumored to now have to offer ‘additional concessions’ to get talks restarted.”
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Like free elections in Ukraine and Z’s departure?
The Babylon Bee - Army Announces People With Ukraine Flags In Bio Will Be Drafted First
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFNcq428NU
"Quote from Rubio: 'Frankly, it's a proxy war between nuclear powers: the United States, helping Ukraine, and Russia. And it needs to come to an end.'Rubio did say the above, and the Ukrainian media is not pleased with it. But note Rubio's intent -- "it's a proxy war between nuclear powers" and "it needs to come to an end.""Details: However, according to Rubio, 'no one has any idea or any plan to bring it to an end'.
"Rubio believes that the plan by Ukraine and its allies up to now has been 'let's just keep giving them as much as they need for as long as it takes. That's not a strategy'."
US state secretary calls Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine "proxy war between US and Russia" Ukrainska Pravda, 6 March 2025
Choices reduce down to a few, and soon to a very few. And so Pravda opines:
"Rubio and other Trump administration officials have been echoing Kremlin narratives recently. Having failed in its plan to 'take Kyiv in three days', Russia quickly began justifying its failures on the battlefield by claiming it was fighting the whole of NATO on Ukrainian soil. The Russians have spread numerous false claims about the collective West's alleged preparations for an attack on Russia and the construction of NATO bases and biolabs in Ukraine, among others."Ignoring the mis-attribution of General Milley's statement to "the Kremilin," one finds the "narrative" strategy of Ukraine via its media is to attack President Trump and our nation's administration.
This indeed is becoming a war of words, as propaganda salvos are launched.
No, Starmer and Macron have vowed to continue passing targeting data... and Trump is rumored to have allowed them to execute their NATO ending betrayal.
The CIA and SF, along with the military personnel in contractor positions have fired their last legally sanctioned US missiles into Russia.
Trump is also withdrawing Artile 5 protections for NATO countries that circumvented his intent and orders... maybe Russia lobs missiles back into France and Britain:)
President Trump Has Exposed the U.S Side of the Proxy War by Disabling Ukraine Access to U.S. Missile and Drone Targeting Systems
March 6, 2025 | Sundance | 444 Comments
The media have not, and in most cases cannot, factually discuss what President Trump has just done without opening up a major can-of-worms about the motives behind the Ukraine war.
When President Trump stopped “intelligence sharing” with Ukraine, what he technically did was stop allowing Ukraine to use exclusive USA targeting systems controlled by U.S Intelligence, the CIA, the National Reconnaissance Office and the U.S. National Geospatial Intelligence Agency.
These terrain mapping systems, the missile and drone targeting systems, are what military forces inside Ukraine need to carry out offensive drone and missile attacks against Russian forces.
Some elements in Western Intel are leaking to media that Trump only cut-off the targeting system that would permit Ukraine to hit deep into Russian territory, including in Russia proper. However, the ‘Russian territory‘ as seemingly defined by the National Security Council includes most of Eastern Ukraine now.
In essence and material reality, the elements in Ukraine who are conducting war, and this includes U.K and U.S special forces, the CIA and various NATO allied military operators (not Ukraine military) can no longer effectively hit long-range Russian targets, without the U.S. targeting system that identifies it.
The real-time sharing of military grade GPS encryption keys has been stopped by the U.S. Commander in Chief, President Trump. Effective immediately without targeting system access, ATACMS, HIMARS, Storm Shadow and Taurus missile systems are no longer functional to those Ukraine operators (remember, those operators are not necessarily Ukranian).
Additionally, the drones that Ukraine has been using also rely on the same accurate, real-time, terrain-mapping satellite data that transmits back to the guidance systems. Without the U.S. encryption keys, what the media is obtusely calling “intelligence sharing,” all of the aforementioned attack systems are rendered moot. THIS IS HUGE.
The part that is really interesting to those who have followed the events of the past three years, is literally who has been in control of and deploying these missile and drone attack systems.
All of the intellectually honest researchers know that it is the USA (special forces) and to a lesser extent the collaborating U.K (special forces) who have been operating these systems. Yes, they have been training Ukranians, but they damned sure are not giving them the highly classified and tightly controlled encryption keys within the targeting system.
In reality, this means the USA/UK are the forces doing the actual fighting of consequence against Russia in the geography of Ukraine. A true and genuine proxy war between NATO and Russia has been ongoing. This stoppage of the missile/drone targeting system by President Trump is factually exposing this proxy war reality.
In the background of what President Trump is doing the NATO alliance, CIA and EU global intelligence operators well understand the ramifications. However, to discuss them openly is to expose the reality that US/UK/NATO have been controlling the war in Ukraine against Russia. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is an irrelevant puppet to these military decisions, that’s why he can travel around doing his insufferable nonsense while a war is waged on his behalf.
Now, think about this dynamic very carefully because now we know President Trump and President Putin are talking to each other.
We know Vladimir Putin is well aware of how the Western targeting system is being used in Ukraine; he has talked about it openly and publicly. However, the West has never admitted it, because to do so would be to inform the public of the proxy war.
After the Biden/Harris team lost the election, on December 21st, 2024, drone attacks were launched from Ukraine into Kazan Russia {GO Deep}. Those attacks were intended to antagonize Russia and provoke a response.
With the new information we now have confirmation that these drone and missile strikes into Russia were factually attacks supported by U.S. targeting systems. The non-pretending reality = The USA attacked Russia using Ukraine.
All of this activity is clouded in this crazy level of pretending that Ukraine is able to defend itself with a little Western support. That has always been nonsense. NATO, the CIA and the global IC has been in control of the war fighting from the outset. Again, all the new information aligns with this now demonstrably accurate reality.
It was the USA who launched the December drone attacks into Kazan, Russia, using the geography of Ukraine as the launch origination. Additionally, it was the USA who recently (Feb 18th) launched drone/missile attacks against Western interests while Secretary Rubio was meeting with Russian emissaries in Riyad, Saudi Arabia.
Drones from Ukraine attacked a pumping station responsible for transporting oil through the Caspian Pipeline Consortium (CPC). This is not exclusively a Russian oil infrastructure asset. This is partly a western asset belonging to American energy corporations. As noted by Medvedev: “In 2024, American businesses accounted for over 40% of CPC oil shipments, and together with other Western companies, their total share exceeded 65%.”
Now, think carefully about what the Western control elements behind the Ukraine military operations are doing. “They” are, essentially, using U.S. provided military weapons, to target energy infrastructure -ancillary to Russia- that is owned by American corporations. Who are “they”?
Again, step back and look at the larger geopolitical dynamic.
President Trump, and by extension his team, knows the USA has been carrying out the drone/missile attacks from inside Ukraine. President Vladimir Putin, and by extension his team, knows the same.
President Trump is in direct conversation with President Vladimir Putin. Does this put the context of their conversations into a different light?
Everyone behind President Trump has to retain pretenses, or there’s going to be a big shit-hitting-fan moment, when a frustrated Trump spills the beans about the USA level of control in the Ukraine v Russia operation.
Knowing the USA/UK/NATO/CIA and Western Intel are conducting the offensive military operations you can only imagine how those “proxy war” control agents are freaked out about Trump and Putin talking to each other.
♦ From the Russian Perspective – In the mind of Putin he now sees President Trump stopping NATO/EU/CIA/UK forces from being able to reach Russia with any attack system.
They don’t need to discuss it, and likely would not, but Putin’s people clearly can see that Trump’s people have stopped the West from their ability to hit Russia with anything.
An unspoken trust is being established through actions, not words. That’s a radical shift, and pretty cool all things considered.
Bad actors within the government Donald Trump now represents have attacked Russia. Donald Trump wants it all to stop. Zelenskyy is the front face of the pretense that Donald Trump has to navigate. The UK/NATO/CIA are still propping Zelenskyy up.
♦ WATCH FOR THIS – The U.S. is still sharing the targeting information with the U.K. However, if the NATO/EU/UK/CIA use the targeting system it will be very obvious; attacks against ‘Russian territory’ be visible. That’s all the proof needed.
If any long-range missile/drone operations continue, then someone is violating the Trump order. There is no other way to look at it.
At that point, something rather radical is likely to be announced by President Trump that shreds every facet of the U.S. relationship with NATO, the UK and even the Five-Eyes consortium.
Geopolitically, every player mentioned is well aware of this dynamic. Hence, the apoplexy we are witnessing.
This is a very interesting dynamic to watch closely.
We all suspected...
More explanation:
President Trump Has Exposed the U.S Side of the Proxy War by Disabling Ukraine Access to U.S. Missile and Drone Targeting Systems
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/06/president-trump-has-exposed-the-u-s-side-of-the-proxy-war-by-disabling-ukraine-access-to-u-s-missile-and-drone-targeting-systems/
You beat me to it! :-) Good article.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Ukraine’s Missile Strikes Lose Efficiency After US Stopped Sharing Intel – Targeting for HIMARS and Storm Shadows Was Done Using Data Handed by NATO Allies, dp0622 wrote: GP? Theyre pretty reliable and I’ve read this elsewhere...BUT...
The US also told allies including Britain not to pass on American intelligence to Kiev. ...
Do we still trust Britain? I never thought i’d ask that.
I don't trust Britain. But in this instance, I think we can because the US would know if Britain leaked information (targeting would be 'too good' to be only Ukrainian).
Zeepers used to melt down when FReepers posted comments saying USA provided information Ukrainians need for missile targeting.
Yes! CTH reader since 2015.
I didn’t have the skill set needed to bring the article over the way it’s been done so far here at FR... guessing that is your handiwork?
If it is, great job, and I would add, go ahead and post it here again in the manner you do, for it is easier on the eyes and makes for faster and better comprehension.
I was only going to post the link but then I thought about the moaners and groaners that blame a person for trying to draw views to a particular site. I believe the pejorative is blog pimping. Humblegunner was notorious for haranguing the blog pimps. His work lives on!
Duplication isn’t the sin that some thread cops think it is around here.
Keep up the good work! Thanks again and post, post, post!
humblegunner bump!
“Ukraine’s Missile Strikes Lose Efficiency After US Stopped Sharing Intel – Targeting for HIMARS and Storm Shadows Was Done Using Data Handed by NATO Allies”
The article is BULLSHIITE - The Zeepers ASSURED us that the US had NOTHING TO DO with the targeting of attacks against Russia...and I would NEVER accuse the Zeepers of lying to us. No, NEVER! (LOL)
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