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President Trump Has Exposed the U.S Side of the Proxy War by Disabling Ukraine Access to U.S. Missile and Drone Targeting Systems
The Last Refuge ^ | March 6, 2025 | Sundance

Posted on 03/06/2025 10:20:30 AM PST by SoConPubbie

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1 posted on 03/06/2025 10:20:30 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

I wouldn’t underestimate the ability of the British to come up with a solution. They like being clever quietly.


2 posted on 03/06/2025 10:28:23 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Post war analysis will be stunning! Everything in the past our corrupted western MSM was lies and omissions- all to support senile Joes Ukie war narrative

The worst part is how many fools believed it all.


3 posted on 03/06/2025 10:29:00 AM PST by delta7
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To: SoConPubbie

This is obvious evidence the CIA and DOD of the United States have been direct participants in the war against Russia. They have provided the targeting technology for attacks in Russia itself. Without that U.S. targeting tech, Ukraine could not kill Russians and blow up Russian infrastructure which they have done with drones, ATACAMS and HIMARS.

It is reasonable to assume, the U.S. military itself is coordinating and guiding these attacks by U.S. weapons and equipment provided.

The U.S. has OBVIOUSLY been in direct combat with Russia which has risked nuclear annihilation of millions in the USA in a Third World War.


4 posted on 03/06/2025 10:34:03 AM PST by Gnome1949
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What actually amazes me is that Putin is able to recognize that the US has been taken over by a hostile force, and it is only that hostile force that he opposes - not the US people or the legitimate government of the USA. He has outright stated that it is the Deep State and all its corrupt agents including Clinton, Biden, etc who are doing all the bad stuff.

To me, that shows remarkable restraint. We could easily have a very, very hot nuclear war if Putin had allowed himself to give in to the extreme provocations.


5 posted on 03/06/2025 10:40:42 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: SoConPubbie

I told Zeepers this was happening.
They of course denied it.
They of course were wrong.
They of course won’t learn anything.


6 posted on 03/06/2025 10:41:08 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ LIFE )
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To: Gnome1949
Without that U.S. targeting tech, Ukraine could not kill Russians and blow up Russian infrastructure which they have done with drones, ATACAMS and HIMARS.

But, it's okay for Russia to have that capability in the reverse, to attack and kill Ukrainian soldiers and destroy Ukrainian infrastructure and even kill civilians in the process. Hmmm...
7 posted on 03/06/2025 10:53:42 AM PST by adorno ( )
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To me, that shows remarkable restraint. We could easily have a very, very hot nuclear war if Putin had allowed himself to give in to the extreme provocations.

Yeah, that Putin has been such a nice guy. He even invaded Ukraine to show how nice he has been to the west.
8 posted on 03/06/2025 10:55:46 AM PST by adorno ( )
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E-Man-U-Al(l) Ma-cron(e) was virtually unknown before becoming elected.

Macron whose first name is E-Man-u-al(l) is legally married to man that sexually molested him as a minor when he was 15 years old; Bridgette was a male teacher who some 20+ years later has donned a dress to be the wife of the President of France. This tranny gave us the Olympics “First Supper” full of gays and trannies in Paris.

It is a travesty that in his presidential picture he has a book present written in the late 1880s by a well know French pedifile homosexual, and that Macron models his life story openly up, and matches very closely to that Big Mike’s Husband the catcher, Obama.

Zelinski was choosen for his own sexual deviancies.

It is a shame that the political elites in the West, to include the dying Pope on a Rope/Shower Soap are all homosexual deviants. Thus the adversion to Christanity.

It is a sad state in the West when you can spot the prenning and not recognize it for the un-manlyness of it all.

Real men need to sort out Ukraine. Not the merry trio of Starmer, Macron and Zelinski who represent the most corrupt group of Homo run states left in Europe who are coming to bemoan President Trump’s manhood and that of his VP Vance.

Trump needs to tell the trio of merry non-men to not even attempt to come to the US because they are not welcome where Peace is desirable.


9 posted on 03/06/2025 10:56:38 AM PST by Jumper
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This is NOT our war, you don’t seem to understand that by us giving Ukraine this technology it is prolonging this war Trump wants peace if the EU chooses to give Ukraine this stuff then so be it our hands are out of it!! Trump does NOT want to be dragged into this conflict!!


10 posted on 03/06/2025 10:58:18 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: SoConPubbie

I am old enough to remember when we cut off South Vietnam and the results of that disaster.


11 posted on 03/06/2025 11:12:33 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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This is NOT our war,

It was not our war either in Europe after WWII was already raging, and then, it became our war too, when it got a lot hotter and a lot more deadly and a lot more destructive.

you don’t seem to understand that by us giving Ukraine this technology it is prolonging this war

True. The war wold be prolonged. But, not supporting Ukraine will bring the surrender by Ukraine and Putin will have gotten his way. Invasion will have paid off.

Trump wants peace

Peace, Putin-style, is no peace at all.

if the EU chooses to give Ukraine this stuff then so be it our hands are out of it!!

I'm all for that too, but, do the Europeans have what is needed to support Ukraine in it's struggle to remain free and independent? We in the U.S. continue to complain that the EU is not doing what they need to do to upgrade their military defense, so, if they don't have it, how are they going to give it? Unfortunately the U.S. is just about the only country that can provide for the needs of the Ukraine defense.

Trump does NOT want to be dragged into this conflict!!

Unfortunately, it's not Ukraine that dragged us into supporting them; it was Putin and Russia. It's not a simple conflict btw; it's full-blown war.
12 posted on 03/06/2025 11:14:12 AM PST by adorno ( )
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President Trump Has Exposed the U.S Side of the Proxy War by Disabling Ukraine Access to U.S. Missile and Drone Targeting Systems

Excellent!

Now We should severely punish Ukraine and the Traitor US intelligence agents that maneuvered attacks on American owned facilities and properties.

Typical Knife-In-The-Back Uke tactics.

13 posted on 03/06/2025 11:21:16 AM PST by Navy Patriot (President Trump Decisively Won Popular & E.C., Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: adorno

The Ukraine can do it, when they can pay for it, build it then deploy it.

14 posted on 03/06/2025 11:22:01 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I am looking forward to the eventual purge of all Zeepers from FR.


15 posted on 03/06/2025 11:29:50 AM PST by ohioman
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adorno is one of those zeepers I speak of.


16 posted on 03/06/2025 11:30:41 AM PST by ohioman
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To: BlackbirdSST
The Ukraine can do it, when they can pay for it, build it then deploy it.

Very few countries have that capability to build it themselves. I suppose Canada and Japan and S.Korea and all countries in S.America should build their own too.

Reasonable thinking is not part of your mind's repertoire processes.
17 posted on 03/06/2025 11:35:07 AM PST by adorno ( )
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To: Navy Patriot
Now We should severely punish Ukraine and the Traitor US intelligence agents that maneuvered attacks on American owned facilities and properties.

Can't punish people for actions that were authorized by the highest authority on the planet. Unfortunately that authority was the worst president in U.S. history, but nevertheless, the use of intelligence and the weapons, was authorized. Can't punish a cop if he fires a bullet into the head of a criminal who was committing murder or other hideous crimes. Blame those who authorized the legal actions.

Typical Knife-In-The-Back Uke tactics.

No bigger knife-in-the-back than abandoning a people to the genocidal and psychopathic maniac in Russia.
18 posted on 03/06/2025 11:42:29 AM PST by adorno ( )
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Per GPT, the UK launched its first military satellite for recon and comm in Sept 2024. That’s right, first one in 2024.

And most important of all . . . all these articles are avoiding the core reality and the only thing that has managed to make it all competitive. It is not loss of offensive capability . . . it is loss of defensive capability.

If forces Russian mass to attack, absence of satellite recon makes them invisible. Defense cannot be deployed. Territory loss accelerates.

The low weight warhead hits into Russia have been insignificant. When you can put 500 pounds on target, then you are achieving something other than media fodder.

Were I the Russians at this point, I would suspect this whole issue. I would mass some forces for advance, but do nothing until my own satellite recon said no response to my deployments were underway. Then the attack can proceed unopposed.


19 posted on 03/06/2025 11:43:28 AM PST by Owen
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To: SoConPubbie

Sundance is wrong about Uke drones, which do not use not need this geomapping system. He also neglects to mention the massive role of Palantir in AI-targeting in Ukraine. It is independent of the NSA system and it is unclear if the Trump order impacts them as well


20 posted on 03/06/2025 11:44:43 AM PST by montag813
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