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Vance says US ‘working on’ Ukraine plan ‘with the Russians’ after Trump cuts defense aid to Kyiv
The Independent via Yahoo ^ | March 3rd, 2025 | Andrew Feinberg

Posted on 03/03/2025 8:02:51 PM PST by Mariner

Vice President JD Vance on Monday said Trump administration officials are already in talks to put on a settlement to the years-long war Russia launched against Ukraine, and warned that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky needs to accept Donald Trump’s terms for a mineral rights deal and enter negotiations with Moscow.

Vance’s demand that Zelensky accept the U.S.-backed mineral rights deal follows the Ukrainian leader’s ejection Friday from the White House after an Oval Office shouting match with Vance and Trump.

It also comes just hours after the Trump administration announced it was halting some defense aid to Kyiv at a crucial time in the war as Zelensky’s forces have fought to repel Russian invaders since 2022.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: andrewfeinberg; frankiemaximus; gigomaximus; independent; jdvance; sidebarabuse; trump; uia; ukraineimperialarmy; vance; zelensky
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It's apparent the Trump Administration has decided to impose a peace deal on Ukraine and Europe.

There will be great outcry and gnashing of teeth.

1 posted on 03/03/2025 8:02:51 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

zeepers hardest hit.


2 posted on 03/03/2025 8:04:48 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Mariner
There will be great outcry and gnashing of teeth.

And angry soiling of adult diapers...

3 posted on 03/03/2025 8:06:03 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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Not hard enough, seems no amount of force can pernitrate their thoughts.


4 posted on 03/03/2025 8:06:17 PM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

penetrate


5 posted on 03/03/2025 8:08:14 PM PST by Skwor
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To: Mariner

It would be fun if Trump trolled the EUnuchs by meeting with Putin at Yalta.


6 posted on 03/03/2025 8:10:02 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: Mariner

when was the last time marcus-minimus posted?


7 posted on 03/03/2025 8:10:37 PM PST by lovingliberty1965
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To: Mariner

Good. Democrats and Macron/Starmer thought they were being clever by convincing Zyyyy to diss Trump. Epic fail. Now they all will regret it.


8 posted on 03/03/2025 8:11:41 PM PST by montag813
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To: Mariner

America and Russia can make a deal together.

They do not need Zelensky to agree to that deal.


9 posted on 03/03/2025 8:13:21 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: Mariner

The WEF Globalist/socialists and EU neo-marxists have their Comintern in London and Brussels

They can not accept any part of Europe outside of neo-marxist control. Same with North America

Their worst enemy is Russia, and then Trump-led United States

Trump has realized this, and is re-aligning appropriately.


10 posted on 03/03/2025 8:15:50 PM PST by PGR88
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To: rfp1234

President Trump should throw a party for a Russian delegation at Mar-a-lago, and broadcast it, just to piss off Zelensky.


11 posted on 03/03/2025 8:16:34 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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It seems likely that because of warfare changes and tech changes and industrial development in E Europe, Ukraine may be able to sustain its defense with just Euro support. Ukraine has begun to run a very cheap war. Even HIMARS are being swapped for new gen drones.

Especially if all it needs to do us run a defensive war. There are problems with that, but they can keep it up.

That means Trump (and Putin) lose leverage. I doubt Trump wants Zelensky to effectively call his bluff.


12 posted on 03/03/2025 8:17:14 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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he didn’t cancel SOME shipments.

He called for a FREEZE...even of things in transit.

Thank goodness.

Now we can get 3 billion in weapons unloaded into the US where they came from.


13 posted on 03/03/2025 8:19:01 PM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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The most militarily significant part of Europe, Poland and - its own bloc - has already called their bluff.

And they hate Russia. This is turning into a four-way struggle.


14 posted on 03/03/2025 8:20:44 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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It's apparent the Trump Administration has decided to impose a peace deal on Ukraine and Europe.

Britain and the E.U. have a combined GDP that surpasses the U.S. If Britain and Europe want to support Ukraine, Trump can't stop them, and won't be able to impose a peace on any country.
15 posted on 03/03/2025 8:20:53 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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Without any US support, Ukraine dies in 90 days or less.

If they believe they can survive without it, they’ll fight.

If they believe they can’t, they’ll capitulate and engage guerilla war...because they are dead-enders.

But the regime falls.


16 posted on 03/03/2025 8:22:11 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I encourage them to see what they can patch together before they have to submit to their humiliation.

It’s always fun to watch ‘em flop around on the floor a bit.


17 posted on 03/03/2025 8:24:52 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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"Vance's demand that Zelensky accept the U.S.-backed mineral rights deal “

Does Ukraine even have rare earth minerals of any really economic quantity?
I doubt it.
Better to do a rare earth deal with the Russians who have vastly more rare earth minerals than Ukraine has.
And Putin is eager for deal.

18 posted on 03/03/2025 8:27:41 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Skwor

I love newly coined words. But pernitrate is an actual word.

noun
(chemistry) A compound of nitric acid with the peroxide of a metal.


19 posted on 03/03/2025 8:33:52 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: Mariner

Russia is going nowhere right now and Ukraine seems to have minimized its US equipment usage. It seems to be all drones out there.

Its up to the Euros to decide how long THEY want to continue to pay the current runtime. Because the certainly could.


20 posted on 03/03/2025 8:33:57 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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