Posted on 03/01/2025 9:07:55 AM PST by bimboeruption
But does Europe have the backbone to militarily support Ukraine without our backing?
IMHO, President Trump should walk away from Ukraine. It's a never ending war, a black hole sucking up more and more people and resources.
If European leaders support Zelensky as much as they claim, they can deal with him.
Zelensky is unsustainable if he actually cut a deal with Russia the Nazi diehards (Ukrainian Nationalists) would overthrow him.
Putin is in the same boat with his people. He makes a deal, he won’t live to see the sunrise.
Time for the US to withdraw from NATO.
NATO can welcome Ukraine.
Europe can reset to 1913.
You got a blind spot there Buddy!
BTTT
Zelensky is going to run out of men to fight his war. At that point, if Europe supplies the bodies, they too become targets. At that point, Article V becomes operant and we have WWIII anyway. Trump is definitely engaging in brinksmanship in that respect.
The problem with that is i doubt Poland, Finland or the Baltic nations desire a return of the warm embrace of Mother Russia.
no Zelensky? no Ukraine? no Europe? Where do I sign up?
“””people watched President Donald Trump and Vice-President J.D. Vance attack Volodymyr Zelensky,”””
and
“””But the meeting will illuminate how much credibility Mr Zelensky really has left and whether Europe has the resolve to attempt to militarily support Ukraine without full American backing.”””
It looks like it is ‘put up or shut up’ time for the Europeans.
I noticed the Economist used the word ‘attack’ to describe yesterday’s event.
Well, Europe you can attack our President all you want, but just maybe it will be your sons and daughters losing their lives on the battlefield if USA backs away from financially supporting Europe as it has done for the last 80 years.
But does Europe have the backbone to militarily support Ukraine without our backing?
The Ukes and the Russkies have hated each other for centuries; let them fight it out.
If Zelenskyy would’ve gone along to get along, things might be different.
F the Economist … what a pathetic article.
If NATO chooses of voluntary war, there is no reason for America to join in. Europe can fight World War III on its own.
Hint to Ukrainians: a future without Zelenskyy is a future with America.
Yyyeahhh. I don’t know. Did the cut-and-paster from The Economist actually talk to “Andriy”?
Hey, I’ve just figured out the answer to all the world’s problems. Have the EU send all their “immigrants” to fight Russia in Ukraine.
“Zelensky is going to run out of men to fight his war. At that point, if Europe supplies the bodies, they too become targets. At that point, Article V becomes operant and we have WWIII anyway. Trump is definitely engaging in brinksmanship in that respect.”
NATO treaties obligate the US to defend member states from invasion, but I don’t believe we are required to support foreign adventures.
Europe has nothing but words when it needs bullets and soldiers. Enough of America playing the fool for NATO. Z wants to call the shots, fine. Let’s see how far he gets with that.
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