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CA’s largest property insurer demanding 22% rate hike after wildfires
The Center Square ^ | February 03, 2025 | Kenneth Schrupp

Posted on 02/03/2025 9:07:00 PM PST by Red Badger

State Farm, California’s largest property insurer, is demanding a 22% emergency rate hike after the Southern California fires, saying that over the last years it has paid out $1.26 in claims for every dollar in premiums it has collected.

Since the passage of Prop. 103 in 1988, state regulators have had to approve any rate hikes, which has led to rates not keeping up with rising claims and risks.

State Farm says that as a result, it has lost $5 billion over the last nine years in California, and that it had no option but to stop underwriting new policies in 2023.

“With further capital deterioration as a result of the wildfires, additional downgrades could follow. If that were to happen, customers with a mortgage might not be able to use State Farm General insurance on the collateral backing for their mortgage,” wrote State Farm. “Even before the January wildfires, at year-end 2024, State Farm General’s Policyholder Protection Fund – or capital available to pay future claims – was approximately a quarter of what it was in 2016.”

State Farm also did not renew policies for 30,000 homeowners in March 2024 in an “ongoing” non-renewal process, but said that “homeowner policies which had pending non-renewals in Los Angeles County that were on the books on January 7th will have an option to renew.”

For homeowners without any available standard market insurance, the state-regulated FAIR Plan of last resort has been an option, albeit with higher rates and low coverage maximums. With the FAIR Plan holding $6 billion of liability in the now-devastated Pacific Palisades alone — a figure boosted by recent State Farm non-renewals in the area — the plan could have no choice but to pass major assessments on to customers. It could take out new bonds if a new state bill authorizing them to do so passes — which would likely result in the passing of these new costs on to customers — or require the authorization of a state or even federal bailout.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; fire; insurance; lafires; statefarm; wildfires
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1 posted on 02/03/2025 9:07:00 PM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
State Farm says that as a result, it has lost $5 billion over the last nine years in California

You know, I can sleep in every day, and break even.

2 posted on 02/03/2025 9:09:16 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Red Badger
If people think California insurance is going to be too expensive if the insurance companies are allowed to raise rates the requested 22%, just wait until they find out the cost of insurance if the increase is not approved.
3 posted on 02/03/2025 9:10:28 PM PST by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: Red Badger

22%?! Chickenfeed!

I’m in AZ, near Phx, and Progressive almost tripled my home insurance premium this month.


4 posted on 02/03/2025 9:21:34 PM PST by Az Joe (We can't spare President Trump; He fights!)
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To: Red Badger
In 1988, California passed a law that forced insurance prices down by 20 percent, banned providers from using forecasts of future risk to set prices, and subjected all future price increases to government oversight. With rates severely decoupled from risk, the state saw extensive development in some very fire-prone areas. Then, after an exceptionally bad fire year in 2017, insurance providers tried to get approval to raise premiums to account for the high level of risk across the state. The government said no. As a result, seven of the twelve largest home insurance providers pulled out of California. And that trend is continuing today.
5 posted on 02/03/2025 9:24:43 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: rdcbn1

California and Florida have the same problem with home owners insurance. Insurance companies either raise their rates to the Moon or they leave the state entirely. The risk is too much for them to bear without a premium that gives them a reasonable expectation of a profit and not go bankrupt if a major disaster hits, like a Cat 5 hurricane in Florida or a 8.0 earthquake in California. Other Gulf and Atlantic states and earthquake prone states are in the same situation.

The ‘problem’ is not too little insurance, but tooo much insurance.

There may be dozens of insurance companies in any given state that will insure a number of homes for disasters, but if a major disaster hits that state and a large majority of a particular insurance company’s customers are suddenly seeking to have their homes rebuilt, the company cannot meet their obligations for all their policy holders. That is why State Farm and others are leaving the state, because they cannot insure everybody and pay off everybody if a major disaster hits.

My suggestion is to get rid of all home insurance companies and have just one insurer that everybody pays into, even commercial property owners should be able to as well.

The one insurance entity would be a quasi-governmental agency that would have all the functions of a commercial insurance company, but the funds would be invested in various stocks, bonds etc, to earn interest on the principal year after year. They could be invested in building material manufacturers, retail sellers like Lowes and Home Depot, brick and cement manufacturers, construction companies and all kinds of things that are necessary to rebuild a home. That way when disaster hits, the insurance entity can negotiate price reductions for materials and provide the materials to the homeowners contractors, similar to what car insurance companies do with cars that need repair after an accident.


6 posted on 02/03/2025 9:31:55 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Yet they continue to be able to pay Patrick Mahomes millions a year as a spokesman.


7 posted on 02/03/2025 9:38:11 PM PST by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: MTBobcat

They can get the hike on one condition: They bring back the White Jake From State Farm.


8 posted on 02/03/2025 9:43:28 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger
The one insurance entity would be a quasi-governmental agency that would have all the functions of a commercial insurance company, but the funds would be invested in various stocks, bonds etc, to earn interest on the principal year after year. They could be invested in building material manufacturers, retail sellers like Lowes and Home Depot, brick and cement manufacturers, construction companies and all kinds of things that are necessary to rebuild a home. That way when disaster hits, the insurance entity can negotiate price reductions for materials and provide the materials to the homeowners contractors, similar to what car insurance companies do with cars that need repair after an accident.

That’s entirely antithetical to a free market, and it’s the exact opposite of what should happen after a “disaster hits.” In times of crisis, government price-fixing, freezes, anti-gouging, whatever you want to call it, invariably will lead to shortages.

And the central planning required of the singular “quasi-governmental agency” are too much; they will not be able to keep up with the infinite variables and changes in a free market. That’s why capitalism is more efficient and more successful: all those decisions are spread out amongst everyone in the market, not the anointed in an ivory tower who are supposedly tasked with looking out for other people’s interests. They have no one else’s interests at heart; they’re human.

Granted, insurance isn’t exactly a “free market” in America, but nothing else really is either.

9 posted on 02/03/2025 10:05:59 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: FoxInSocks

The staffing of the entity could be awarded via sealed bids to real insurance companies for 5 years at a time, just like the military here does with its maintenance and operation of its testing facilities. A former neighbor worked for several different companies during his time as a test technician on base, RCA, BAE, Vitro, Marconi etc. ........


10 posted on 02/03/2025 10:10:43 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

What’s funny is the state insurance fund, FAIR, raised its rates drastically, but it is not news when the state does it. Also, there’s a good chance the LA fires will break the state insurance fund.


11 posted on 02/03/2025 10:33:26 PM PST by rey
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To: Red Badger

State Farm cancelled home owner policies in my area by harassing home owners with drone footage demanding rooves be replaced in order to renew. Who’s going to pay to replace a roof that’s not leaking and has many years of service left? Oddly enough, the area I live seems to be a much better risk than California.


12 posted on 02/04/2025 1:19:12 AM PST by McCarthysGhost
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To: Red Badger

Perhaps I’m abnormal
but the only reason I buy insurance.
is for liability.
That is to protect myself from
all the idiots we live with.
I can build a house from scratch
cheaper than a Human treated in
a hospital for 5 days.
House means nothing, I can build another.
As$hole in a courtroom is a lot more expensive!


13 posted on 02/04/2025 1:21:37 AM PST by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: Red Badger

“My suggestion is to get rid of all home insurance companies and have just one insurer that everybody pays into, even commercial property owners should be able to as well.”

This is the exact opposite of how to spread risk in a fair manner, this is how the people of the uppermost will get screwed by coastal who continue to rebuild in hurricane zones, beach houses that the rest of us rebuild 4 times in 25 years. The cost of the current claims in California are minuscule compared to what Florida faces almost yearly in wind and wave damage. It is a big fire number but a tiny loss in the reinsurance market.

What we will find the structure loss in the pacific palisades will be much LOWER than intial estimates. The insurance companies will rightly claim a property is worth x dollars per square feet and x square feet were lost, no matter how nice the area around the pool was, or how nice the weather of the lot or how good the local economy was, the cost to reconstruct in a normal market is what the paid claim will be.


14 posted on 02/04/2025 2:00:34 AM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

It is all about on defines loss.

Just because they paid out claims doesn’t mean tney are losing money.


15 posted on 02/04/2025 2:55:49 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Red Badger

Time for California to start paying their fair share and not expect the other insured in the rest of the 50 states to cover the cost of their politics.


16 posted on 02/04/2025 3:16:19 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (Lupus urbem intravit. Fulminis ictu vultures super turrem exanimat. )
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To: riverrunner

Insurers are nothing but anti- capitalist middlemen. Regardless of the industry, healthcare, auto, home.. they specialize in creating bureaucracy that rakes in cash and pays very little. They can fudge their numbers all they want. Sit down and calculate how much you paid, versus how much they really paid. Not their little gimmicky numbers, but the “negotiated prices”.
Insurance should be available to purchase from any insurance company, from any state. Should never be mandated. Should be available to purchase and cancel at anytime.
They keep prices of everything artificially inflated.


17 posted on 02/04/2025 3:18:07 AM PST by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with )
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To: Az Joe

my homeowners doubled in the last year
not State Farm
no claim ever

but probably because I can see Mexico from my house


18 posted on 02/04/2025 3:39:25 AM PST by SisterK (it's controlled demolition)
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To: momincombatboots
1. Insurance companies are essential to the establishment of any modern society and thriving economy. There would be almost zero commerce outside of bartering and person-to-person trade unless the buyer and/or seller had a means of sharing risk for catastrophic losses. This is why some of the first companies established in the U.S. after its founding were insurance companies.

2. An insurance policy is a CONTRACT, which means it is governed and regulated by state law. That’s why you can’t buy insurance from a company in another state.

3. You can eliminate “health insurance” from any discussion of the subject. That’s not real insurance, but an over-regulated racket where the mechanisms for measuring and pricing risk have been REMOVED.

19 posted on 02/04/2025 3:55:40 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Well, maybe I'm a little rough around the edges; inside a little hollow.” -- Tom Petty, “Rebels”)
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To: Red Badger

Incompetent government in the form of no water in aqueducts, no water in large reservoirs, broken down fire equipment stuck at the repair depot, fire leadership selected for lesbianism instead of ability to manage a large fire department, and more, all are all coming home to roost.

Also, this would be a good time to (re)read Kipling’s The Gods of the Copybook Headings. For the Left, it would mostly be for the first time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_of_the_Copybook_Headings

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!


20 posted on 02/04/2025 4:26:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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