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Boiling Point: Farewell to Ivanpah, the world’s ugliest solar plant
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 27, 2025 | By Sammy Roth

Posted on 01/29/2025 7:27:34 AM PST by artichokegrower

Sometimes, government makes a bad bet.

Case in point: the Ivanpah solar project. Maybe you’ve seen the unsightly, blindingly bright towers while traveling from L.A. to Las Vegas, in the Mojave Desert near the California-Nevada state line. Maybe you’ve read about birds getting fried to death as they fly through the sunlight directed to the tops of the towers by fields of mirrors.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: adios; birdfryer; birds; boondoggles; california; californication; gavinnewsom; ivanpah; karenbass; kissitgoodbye; lasvegas; losangeles; mojavedesert; nevada; powerplants; solar; solarplant
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More clean and green energy for California

It’s been a bad month for green energy in California

First the world’s largest lithium battery storage plant blew up in Moss Landing an now this solar generating plant in the Mojave Desert has to be dismantled

1 posted on 01/29/2025 7:27:34 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower
Federal officials made a similar bet, helping finance Ivanpah through $1.6 billion in loan guarantees.

Thank God for printed, fiat money, federal reserve manipulated interest rates, and massive government debt and spending it allows

Without it, all the leftist social engineering and crony-capitalist grift would be impossible!

2 posted on 01/29/2025 7:31:05 AM PST by PGR88
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To: artichokegrower

have flown over it hundreds of times. Still ridiculous and ugly.


3 posted on 01/29/2025 7:33:19 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: artichokegrower

4 posted on 01/29/2025 7:34:04 AM PST by dayglored (This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24)
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To: artichokegrower

Unlike solar panels, molten salt solar plants can produce electricity at night.


5 posted on 01/29/2025 7:34:22 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

“ Unlike solar panels, molten salt solar plants can produce electricity at night.”

What’s the cost per Kilowatt?

L


6 posted on 01/29/2025 7:35:45 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: artichokegrower
Sometimes, government makes a bad bet.

When it comes to gov't acting outside its constitutional limits, the results are ALWAYS bad.

That is why America has been on the brink to disappearing as a Free Constitutional Republic.

7 posted on 01/29/2025 7:35:59 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: artichokegrower

Solar panels have become very cheap.

Unfortunately, during the recent long cold spell here in Florida the sun was rarely seen.


8 posted on 01/29/2025 7:37:03 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: artichokegrower
Sometimes, government makes a bad bet.

Sometimes?

9 posted on 01/29/2025 7:41:14 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: dayglored

10 posted on 01/29/2025 7:43:26 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: frogjerk; artichokegrower
>> Sometimes, government makes a bad bet.

> Sometimes?

It's one of the wonderful services provided by Big Goobermint -- it makes the bad bets so that you don't have to do it yourself.

11 posted on 01/29/2025 7:44:28 AM PST by dayglored (This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24)
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To: Lurker

“What’s the cost per Kilowatt?”

You are not a follower of Al Gore and are no friend of crony capitalists.

Submit and be fleeced!

“The plant was paid $0.20 per kWh last summer for electricity and $0.135 for the rest of the year, compared to an average solar system getting about $0.05 per kWh for new contracts today.”

https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/02/how-a-22-billion-solar-plant-became-a-money-pit.aspx


12 posted on 01/29/2025 7:45:27 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Unlike all forms of wind and solar, nuclear power plants and coal fired plants can produce continuous power anytime of day, in any weather, cheaper.


13 posted on 01/29/2025 7:46:06 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Brian Griffin

The arsenic shed by solar panels makes the ground under and around them unfit to grow food.


14 posted on 01/29/2025 7:47:23 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s like the government runs “Daily Specials” on Unanticipated Consequences.


15 posted on 01/29/2025 7:47:52 AM PST by dayglored (This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24)
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To: artichokegrower

YOU MEAN: USUALLY, the government makes a bad bet....


16 posted on 01/29/2025 7:50:05 AM PST by oil_dude
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To: dayglored

One thing the government certainly should not do is to loan money or provide loan guarantees.


17 posted on 01/29/2025 7:50:08 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

We just had nearly two weeks of sub freezing and near freezing weather in North Texas. Unlike Florida where you get stratus clouds for days. We have frontal systems that bring cumulus and nimbus then days and days of clear cold. My panels made three times what my homes used during that period and sold the excess to ERCOT.

Wholesale by the pallet you can get 20 year panels for 16 cents per watt of capacity. In this zip.code we get 220 days per year of full sun per annum. That works out to fractions of a cents per kWh over the 20 year lifetime of the panels. They carry a hail rating last hail storms we had the only parts of the roof that were not damaged were under the panels ironically. These are thinfilm lead, cadmium, and arsenic free. They have silver and aluminum junctions vs lead solder joints. They had a 3 year fiscal pay off and a 8 month energy of production pay back. They have been making a profit every month for the last 2 years I got them in stages the first batch was 13 cents per watt , second was 15, third was recently on the steel building with the Teslas plural now the wife got a model Y recently I have had a model 3 for a while both get charged from the panels above them. My systems are off grid at a flip of a breaker that alone is priceless for a prepper. The twin powerwalls if I decide to buy them are the most expensive part of the system. Those are 30 grand but hold a week of no sun in them which we get less than once per year here. The trifuel genny would be used then anyways with offsite natural gas, and on site propane being 1st and 2nd back ups we kept the huge bullet tank when atmos strung gas line at the street a few years back finally. Propane is better for crawfish boils and high heat wok burners you need 20+ psi something natural gas cannot do at the residential level it’s 1 psi max with a dedicated meter for Gucci money otherwise it’s 11 inches of water which is 1/4 psi piddly you will never get 200,000 btu flames from residential gas. Propane jet burners hit 200K with ease.


18 posted on 01/29/2025 7:53:49 AM PST by GenXPolymath
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19 posted on 01/29/2025 7:53:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: artichokegrower
birds getting fried to death as they fly through the sunlight directed to the tops of the towers by fields of mirrors

Gives new meaning to 'air fried' food. If only chickens could fly that high and that far.
20 posted on 01/29/2025 7:54:09 AM PST by adorno ( )
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