Posted on 01/27/2025 6:35:45 AM PST by dennisw
A little-known artificial intelligence lab out of China has ignited panic throughout Silicon Valley after releasing AI models that can outperform America's best despite being built more cheaply and with less-powerful chips.
DeepSeek, as the lab is called, unveiled a free, open-source large language model in late December that it says took only two months and less than $6 million to build, using reduced-capability chips from Nvidia called H800s.
The new developments have raised alarms on whether America's global lead in artificial intelligence is shrinking and called into question Big Tech's massive spend on building AI models and data centers.
In a set of third-party benchmark tests, DeepSeek's model outperformed Meta's Llama 3.1, OpenAI's GPT-4o and Anthropic's Claude Sonnet 3.5 in accuracy ranging from complex problem-solving to math and coding.
DeepSeek on Monday released R1, a reasoning model that also outperformed OpenAI's latest o1 in many of those third-party tests.
"To see the DeepSeek new model, it's super impressive in terms of both how they have really effectively done an open-source model that does this inference-time compute, and is super-compute efficient," Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Wednesday. "We should take the developments out of China very, very seriously."
DeepSeek also had to navigate the strict semiconductor restrictions that the U.S. government has imposed on China, cutting the country off from access to the most powerful chips, like Nvidia's H100s. The latest advancements suggest that DeepSeek either found a way to work around the rules, or that the export controls were not the chokehold Washington intended.
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It’s called “Competition”.
This is what Kim Komando said>>>>
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🤯 Shocking AI news: DeepSeek, a Chinese company loaded with young, ambitious talent, is causing massive panic in Silicon Valley by releasing multiple AI models 50 times more efficient than the best American ones. DeepSeek’s models outperformed Meta’s Llama 3.1, OpenAI’s GPT‑4o and Anthropic’s Claude Sonnet 3.5 in everything from complex problem-solving to math and coding accuracy.
Here’s the kicker: They built DeepSeek with $5.6 million; OpenAI spent $5.4 billion per year.
Everything out of china is a lie.
Maybe... but it works.
Spyware ?
If true, China stole the technology, allowing American companies to eat the research costs.
Could be a lie. We are in a fifth gen warfare scenario.
Could also serve as a goad to the west to develop better products.
Or so they say.
Absolutely. This is the CCP after all.
They start with ours and improve it, like much of what they do.
Not to mention, there are many Chinese here in the US on corporate payrolls working on AI.
“Everything out of china is a lie.”
Everything out of US corporations and government is also a lie.
No. I asked it if it was Spyware, and it said no.
I tried asking one of my bots, that uses GPT‑4o, a question earlier this morning, and its answer sucked. I will switch to the Chinese AI model as soon as it is available.
China isn’t hampered by any sense of responsibility. American companies have to pace themselves by how much funding they raise, whereas China is not.
By not having to spend on research on developing from the ground, they only have to pay for any research that is on top of what they stole.
If America has a car that can go 400mph and China steals the technology, they only have to pay for the research that allows them to develop a car that can go faster by 50mph.
Typical xenophobia.
the AI revolution is in its infancy, and the Chinese technology will make it far cheaper and less energy-intensive.
End users (like Amazon) will vastly benefit.
I know next to nothing about AI, but I wonder if the Chinese version built for less than $6. Millon, would have even been possible without the American $6.Billion version having been built first? Was that the sequence? Modern China has always excelled at copying or ‘lifting’ innovations started in the West. Even if this is so, America must acknowledge that the competition is real and in our faces.
A Sputnik moment?
Good. Now we can stop importing h1b visas scammers since they accomplished nothing of value and Ai is a billion dollar scam
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