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The CIA believes COVID likely originated from a lab but has low confidence in its own finding
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 25, 2025 | David Klepper

Posted on 01/26/2025 7:15:08 AM PST by artichokegrower

The CIA now believes the virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a laboratory, according to an assessment released Saturday that points the finger at China — even while acknowledging that the spy agency has “low confidence” in its own conclusion.

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While the origin of the virus remains unknown, scientists think the most likely hypothesis is that it circulated in bats, like many coronaviruses, before infecting another species, probably racoon dogs, civet cats or bamboo rats. In turn, the infection spread to humans handling or butchering those animals at a market in Wuhan, where the first human cases appeared in late November 2019.

Commentary from the Los Angeles Times which is owned by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong


1 posted on 01/26/2025 7:15:08 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

This LA Times owner is causing some waves now that he can’t be expropriated by the *resident Bidet regime.


2 posted on 01/26/2025 7:17:03 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Call Traitor General Milley back into service, bust him to private, courtmartial, convict, hang.)
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To: artichokegrower

The braintrust over at the CIA is sure on top of things. How did we let these clowns take over our country?


3 posted on 01/26/2025 7:18:23 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (Democracy is dead. Long live the Republic!)
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CIA scientists found early on it did come from a lab. Fauci met with top CIA and it was decided it didn’t come from a lab.


4 posted on 01/26/2025 7:19:25 AM PST by Cold Heart (Government for moral and religious people. Democrat party is neither )
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Genetically, it was impossible to have been anything else but either a lab leak or with intent.

Please. Leftists will always be leftists. That goes for ds and many still in cia.

No compromise.


5 posted on 01/26/2025 7:21:38 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Transcript

Good news! We’ve rolled back the ban on gain of function research.

Really?

So now it’s legal for us to modify viruses and make a more deadly and transmissible to humans.

Why would you want to do that?

Well it’s important that we be prepared in case something like that happened in the future in case somebody modifies a deadly virus to be more infectious and able to transmit to humans. Can you imagine?

Yeah sounds dangerous.

No, no it’s fine.
Wwe’re doing it at a level four weapons research lab in Wuhan China very secure.

Okay good.

Terrible news oh no there’s been an outbreak of a mysterious new respiratory virus in Wuhan China.

Wuhan China like where the research lab is?

Yeah yeah exactly like right where the lab is.

So do you think it could have come from the lab?

No absolutely not. I see how you could make that mistake but no no the virus the deadly virus that’s make it able to infect humans that came from the farmer’s market down the road from the dangerous bioweapons lab.

And you expect us to believe that?

I’ll ban you from the internet if you don’t.

COVID Pitch Meeting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwpWpuIk_E


6 posted on 01/26/2025 7:25:39 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: HYPOCRACY

CIA has been “taking over” since the 50s..
They have had control over our media since Joseph McCarthy (McCarthyism).

Most of us here on FR know that everything he accused communists of (the infiltration of communism in the USA) is, and have been proven, as true.
Trying to remember the name of the released document from Russia.. Corona documents?!.. something like that... I believe they were released in the late 80s- maybe early 90s.
It definitely needs a cleaning.

The JFK files were ‘deleted’ decades ago.
No matter what is made public now, the actual files are long gone.


7 posted on 01/26/2025 7:27:03 AM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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They’re correct. It started in a lab at UNC-Chapel Hill before it had to be moved to Wuhan.


8 posted on 01/26/2025 7:27:39 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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Trump again defends use of the term ‘China virus’
By Maegan Vazquez and Betsy Klein, CNN
March 19, 2020

President Donald Trump was pressed for the second straight day on why he is calling the coronavirus the “Chinese virus,” amid instances of bigotry against Asian Americans.

After consulting with medical experts, and receiving guidance from the World Health Organization, CNN has determined that that name is both inaccurate and is considered stigmatizing.

” ‘Cause it comes from China. It’s not racist at all, no, not at all. It comes from China, that’s why. I want to be accurate,” Trump said on Wednesday.

“Viruses know no borders and they don’t care about your ethnicity or the color of your skin or how much money you have in the bank,” said Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the World Health Organization health emergencies program. “It’s really important that we be careful in the language we use.”


Just one of a million reasons why CNN is swirling in the turd bowl and Trump is on top again. And one of the reasons we left WHO.
9 posted on 01/26/2025 7:27:49 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (They were the FA-est of times, they were the FO-est of times.”.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Not sure where it started.
But, from what I read, it started here in the USA.. was moved to Canada, as research, then moved to China (Wuhan).


10 posted on 01/26/2025 7:30:35 AM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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Let the geniuses at the CIA wallow in their low confidence mode. The rest of the world knew that covid originated in china right after it’s outbreak. They seemed to have a lot of testosterone and confidence while going after Trump with their Russian prostitutes crap.


11 posted on 01/26/2025 7:33:37 AM PST by exinnj
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The Chinese are damn sure that the Wuhan Lab is the source of that outbreak.


12 posted on 01/26/2025 7:34:12 AM PST by GingisK
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NY Times as well:

"Tom Cotton, believe it or not, pitched an op-ed to the Times arguing this in March 2020. It was called incendiary, irresponsible and racist.

CIA believes the COVID-19 pandemic was the result of an accidental lab leak in China, per assessment just declassified by Trump's new CIA Director John Ratcliffe — NYT."

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13 posted on 01/26/2025 7:35:03 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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Captain Obvious has always been an enemy of the media. So has Caption Competent.


14 posted on 01/26/2025 7:41:54 AM PST by Da Coyote
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Why US outsourced bat virus research to Wuhan

"As such in October 2014, because of public health concerns, the US government banned all federal funding on efforts to weaponize three viruses – influenza, Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)."

"In the face of a moratorium in the US, Dr Anthony Fauci – the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and currently the leading doctor in the US Coronavirus Task Force – outsourced in 2015 the GOF research to China’s Wuhan lab and licensed the lab to continue receiving US government funding."

15 posted on 01/26/2025 7:45:10 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for the US and President Trump)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I would agree, except that it was our fault.

Why US outsourced bat virus research to Wuhan

16 posted on 01/26/2025 7:46:32 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for the US and President Trump)
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To: artichokegrower

I drank a whole bottle of Jim Beam last night and had a horrible headache, the runs, and couldn’t hardly get up the next day.

People suggested that the Jim Beam caused it, but they’re misinformed. I told them that it was really that salad that I ate.

A couple of days later, much evidence came forth that it was the Jim Beam. I began to think so too, but I have “low confidence” in this conclusion.


17 posted on 01/26/2025 7:48:54 AM PST by bakeneko
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acknowledging that the spy agency has “low confidence” in its own conclusion.

That's OK. I have low confidence in the CIA as well. I also have low confidence in the LA Times.

18 posted on 01/26/2025 7:52:43 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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“Lab leak” is a fallback position from the bat soup, wet market, natural occurrence story. They knew from day one it came from the Wuhan Lab, and that Fauci and Chapel Hill created it.

So what else were they going to say but “leak”? They going to admit the truth?
It was released deliberately. In the late summer and fall of 2019, Wuhan was rocked by mass protests. They quickly spread to Hong Hong and because very violent. The Chinese were frightened that it could spread across China.
Also, Trump beat the impeachment scam and was a runaway freight train headed to reelection.

So with Trump hurting China with tariffs, protests spreading in China, and DC terrified Trump was headed for reelection. It was released.
It wasn’t much more dangerous than a bad flu, most of the deaths came from medical misadventure.
But it only had to be bad enough to justify lockdowns in China and the USA to kill the Chinese protests and the US economy.

So we were treated with videos of Chinese dropping dead in the street, men in hazmat suits in line spraying disinfectant, etc.

“Lab leak” is their fallback from the wet market. When it was obvious that it was man made, they couldn’t exactly say “ok, we did it on purpose”.


19 posted on 01/26/2025 7:53:16 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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To: artichokegrower

After the last few years, the public would have “low confidence” in anything the CIA said.


20 posted on 01/26/2025 8:13:37 AM PST by csn vinnie
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