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How the L.A. Wildfires Are Becoming a Conspiracy-Theorists’ Haven — and a Political Weapon (barf alert)
Hollywood Reporter ^ | JANUARY 9, 2025 | STEVEN ZEITCHIK

Posted on 01/11/2025 8:10:22 AM PST by DoodleBob

When Hurricanes Milton and Helene ravaged the Southeast in the fall, FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell said she feared that a whole new level of disinformation was taking hold.

“It’s absolutely the worst I’ve ever seen,” she told reporters, as conspiracy theorists claimed their favorite agency was suddenly, absolutely detaining locals in tents, only saving trans people, not saving white people, demanding all aid money be repaid with interest and other blatant absurdities spread in online posts.

Criswell may have wanted to save the superlatives for January.

The fires currently tearing through the homes of entertainment-industry professionals and (a far greater number of) ordinary Angelenos have enabled a torrent of outrageous comments that have multiplied with astonishing speed. Platforming it would serve no good purpose. But suffice it to say there’s zero credible evidence that fires have been set by eco-terrorists looking to draw attention to climate change; that the tragedy was fueled by massive budget cuts to the LAFD (the department’s budget was trimmed a miniscule 2 percent last cycle); that the LAFD’s effectiveness has been hampered because it’s too busy sending supplies to Ukraine (Donald Trump Jr.’s go-to); or that Gov. Gavin Newsom’s attempts to save a fish caused a water shortage (Donald Trump Sr.’s go-to).

Such dispatches from Imaginaryland haven’t been limited to MAGA; moderate Republic strategist Scott Jennings on CNN on Wednesday night somehow connected the devastation to DEI hiring at the LAFD. (He was promptly shot down by the panel.)

Nor has the left been immune. Some upper-middle-class liberals in L.A.’s entertainment community have quietly been raising the possibility of a Guy Fawkesian arson plan, citing, among other things, Joe Rogan’s oft-repeated story that a firefighter once told him “the right wind” will one day blow through L.A. and destroy it.

Rogan told the story to Quentin Tarantino again last month, and the elites have seen it as some kind of dog whistle meant to cue an eat-the-rich attack, though there’s not a single shred of evidence to support the idea — Rogan just seemed to be playfully peddling doomerism and gently trolling Hollywood as he always does. Any reports of fires actively being set — on Thursday evening LAPD was working under a theory that the Kenneth Fire was the result of arson and arrested someone who may have been connected — have come with no indication of class warfare. Experts have long said arsonists tend to act out of personal pathology, not political anger.

That hasn’t stopped some Hollywood types from spreading the theory in text threads and WhatsApp groups. Perhaps this is just establishment jitters in a post-Mangione world, but it shows one thing: The lure of the conspiracy theory knows not from party affiliation.

At least there hasn’t been much AI-deepfake action yet. Then again, when the canvas is that stark — harrowing scenes of apocalyptic destruction — you don’t need to manufacture images to get your point across. You just caption the existing ones with the most seductive outlandishness you can find.

Natural disasters have always attracted crackpots. Without the clear antagonist of, say, a terrorist attack, these events lend themselves to manufactured fictions. But you’d be right to suspect something has changed over the past few years.

Back in 2005, Hurricane Katrina contained plenty of finger-pointing and calls for accountability. But the speed, scope and depth of the scapegoating is new; what started decades ago as an honest if fervent search for responsibility in natural disasters has turned into something much more wild and malignant. The Maui fires in the summer of 2023 brought a whole raft of nonsense theories about a “direct energy” laser, which tumbled into the Helene theories in 2024 and now rolled up with the Southern California fairy tales about Ukrainian drones and Greta Thunberg secret orders.

Laugh at these inanities but these theories often serve an end, especially on the right: to help politicians and movements score points with their base. They are the lifeblood of a beast that must always keep its followers lathered up and a villain in its sights.

What we are witnessing is nothing less than the weaponization of tragedy — an exploitation of personal pain for political gain. Boosted by a social media optimized for outrage and a removal of its institutional guardrails (hello, Meta), the leaders work the system to their agenda, whether that’s loosening environmental regulations (the clear aim of the fish story), avoiding the disbursement of aid money (a real concern when Trump arrives in office in 10 days) or simply to sully a hated elected official on the other side.

Solutions seem scarce, especially as, on the once-robust public square of Twitter (now X), Elon Musk continues to throw open the hotel doors to the misinformers. (Musk has been boosting the Newsom-fish theory with regularity.)

University of Toronto political science professor Geoff Dancy, who has studied conspiracy theories for much of his career, has argued that conspiracy theorists are reacting more emotionally than intellectually, which is why responding to them with facts generally doesn’t work (and might make things worse; the more pushback they get, the more it reinforces the sense something is being kept from them).

People who’ve researched wildfires also say the events are uniquely suited to conspiracy theories. Lucy Walker, the Oscar-winning documentary filmmaker who made the landmark wildfire movie Bring Your Own Brigade a few years ago, told me it’s become almost an expected feature of these events.

“I have spoken to more survivors of wildfires than almost anybody because I spent several years making my documentary,” Walker said when I messaged her to ask about this. “I was astonished when sane-looking people would start telling me insanely implausible conspiracies about alien light beams, or any of these other absurd theories.

“Some of it you can just explain with the fact that the algorithms promote contrary positions,” she said. “But I think it is also interesting to ask if maybe some people need protecting as they are really struggling with the absolute horror of this.”

Walker said that, at least when it came to civilians, the benefit of the doubt was due them. “I guess I see that a lot of people are in shock and grief, and anger is famously one of the stages of grief and can lead to a tendency to blame. It is hard to absorb the truth and the big picture, especially when it is overwhelmingly inconvenient to face the fact that it is risky to live in these beautiful areas that we love so much. … I hope that we can stay compassionate with one another rather than create more stress by name-calling or pathologizing.”

One would hope. But these theories have real-world consequences, and if a public official who’s genuinely trying to solve a problem is done in by a Trumpian theory mob — or if such fancifulness is used to rally support for a reduction in aid — it’s harder to see it as so benign.

If there’s some small comfort to be taken from all this, it’s that while the tools and speed are new, the motivations aren’t. Ask any casual student of history about what caused the Great Chicago Fire of 1871 that decimated much of the city and they’ll come back with Mrs. O’Leary’s cow, which knocked over a lantern and set the town ablaze. The story is actually patently untrue — the fire was started in the area near her barn, likely by someone else, and a reporter quickly admitted they invented the cow detail to make the story more interesting.

What’s more, Mrs. O’Leary was Irish, an ethnic group undergoing a demonization in the city, and blaming her sated a populist need for a villain; she was the DEI hire of her time.

Alas, with extreme-weather disasters increasing and both the social and social media conditions ever more ripe for the stoking, these demonizing theories will likely only intensify in the coming years. Bad actors creating havoc with false information, it turns out, can be a tinderbox too.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; conspiracy; wildfires
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It’s a conspiracy theory if the target is leftism.

It’s truth if the target is normals.

1 posted on 01/11/2025 8:10:22 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

SOMEONE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN HOW A RESERVOIR HAS BEEN IDLED SINCE SUMMER OF 2022 THAT HOLDS 117 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER.

HOW CAN IT TAKE OVER 2 yearS to “REPLACE THE DAMAGED COVER”?????


2 posted on 01/11/2025 8:14:22 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: DoodleBob

Time to charge the EV and hit the road.


3 posted on 01/11/2025 8:14:34 AM PST by cnsmom
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Conspiracy-Theorists’ Haven - and we have seen that most of these conspiracy theories were not just theories but accurate forecasts of what actually turned out to be the truth.

Have the fires been debunked yet?

4 posted on 01/11/2025 8:15:22 AM PST by AndyJackson
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And...”Solutions seem scarce, especially as, on the once-robust public square of Twitter (now X), Elon Musk continues to throw open the hotel doors to the misinformers. (Musk has been boosting the Newsom-fish theory with regularity.)”


5 posted on 01/11/2025 8:17:24 AM PST by goodnesswins (Don’t be REALITY PHOBIC!)
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From Front Page Magazine

As a community organizer, Rep. Bass described the burning of Korean stores during the L.A. race riots as a happy event. “Like a miracle, a large chunk of the stores we wanted to close were burned to the ground,” the city’s future mayor had gushed.

“If people burned down those stores, they must have been unhappy with them,” she suggested.

The L.A. race riots provided Bass with a national platform. The media was eager to interview local activists and politicians were seeking answers about how to stop the violence. While Rodney King and countless Asian store owners suffered, Bass benefited enormously.

“This is a terrible thing to say. We all felt bad for his beating. But we cheered the fact that it was finally documented,” Bass mused in ‘Burn, M.F’er Burn!’, a recent documentary, while watching footage of the beating.


6 posted on 01/11/2025 8:23:33 AM PST by TigerClaws
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It is almost as if the people don’t trust the government.


7 posted on 01/11/2025 8:24:17 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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We should run with it like the left does. Until we play their game we’ll be on defense.


8 posted on 01/11/2025 8:25:28 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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Precisely.


9 posted on 01/11/2025 8:26:05 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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All of this is "just a conspiracy theory" according to leftists:

6-A74-DFD9-70-F5-442-E-BE00-B6-C77-CD53362

Disagree and you deserve to have your job terminated.

10 posted on 01/11/2025 8:26:15 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: DoodleBob

When they start throwing ‘conspiracy theory’ around it means they want you to shut up and follow their narrative.


11 posted on 01/11/2025 8:27:21 AM PST by dljordan (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: DoodleBob

Lefty Californians whose houses burned to a crisp and complain about it better get used to being called “conspiracy theorists” and accused of spouting “misinformation” and “disinformation”.

Welcome to the Partee!


12 posted on 01/11/2025 8:28:12 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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...and a political weapon... Just like the U.S. Feral Courts and Fat Alvin and Juan Merchan the Coffee Bean's courts in New Yawk.
13 posted on 01/11/2025 8:28:28 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Deport that piggie, Marchan!!! NOW!!! Send his butt back to Colombia! He's milked America enough.)
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To: DoodleBob

The author is nothing but an arrogant little prick. He has no idea what other people are thinking, but brags about some special insight that only he has.


14 posted on 01/11/2025 8:29:45 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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Palisades fire has two suspects seen leaving the area and they’re hiding the video of that and police won’t even verify an investigation.

Amusing list the author gives here. Katrina. “Bush blew up the levy!” HBO even made a documentary by Spike Lee saying that. 9/11 - Bush knocked down those towers, said many a celebrity and no ‘debunking stories’ back then.

Newsom’s 2028 POTUS campaign is going up in smoke. New York Times today blames climate change - presumably for the hydrants that won’t work to put out fires.

This is 100% spin and an attempt to avoid accountability.

Amusing that the lesbians in charge have called in real men from Canada, Oregon, etc. to do the work for them.

It’s fun and games and DEI nonsense when nothing is at stake. When they’re about to lose their homes watch how people demand someone that can actually get the job done.

As the diversity head said you’re in the “wrong place” if you need her help. You mean, a fire?


15 posted on 01/11/2025 8:30:47 AM PST by TigerClaws
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Zeitchik is right. We are being firehosed with disinformation like this... Here is what California spends EVERY SINGLE YEAR on worthless garbage... Just imagine what California would be like without these staggering expenditures that just piss money down the toilet. If this money were spent for the benefit of the honest, law-abiding, tax-paying good legal citizens, CA would once again be paradise.
16 posted on 01/11/2025 8:30:48 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Marxism is a politics for the ugly, unwanted, uneducated, unhealthy, and insan)
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17 posted on 01/11/2025 8:31:36 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: DoodleBob

If the government and other trusted sources lie to you when it gains an advantage for a moment, you no longer know what or who to believe and thus is born a fertile breeding ground for disinformation.


18 posted on 01/11/2025 8:32:26 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (Lupus urbem intravit. Fulminis ictu vultures super turrem exanimati. )
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I heard a conspiracy theory that these morons didn’t have water for the fire hydrants.


19 posted on 01/11/2025 8:33:16 AM PST by bort
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Yet they promote the biggest "Conspiracy-Theory" of all. That some how a fraction of a percent of a rise in CO2 is causing the fires.

Would they like to discuss?

20 posted on 01/11/2025 8:34:16 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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