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How Did Palisades Fire Start? Is Climate Change To Blame for LA Wildfires?
Newsweek ^ | 1/8/25 | Khaleda Rahman

Posted on 01/08/2025 1:11:18 PM PST by DallasBiff

Firefighters are battling multiple fast-growing wildfires in Los Angeles that have destroyed buildings and forced thousands of people to flee their homes.

Almost 3,000 acres have burned in the city's Pacific Palisades neighborhood after a fire broke out on Tuesday morning. About 30,000 residents were ordered to evacuate. Fire photos show Palisades destruction—"Looks like Mars" Read more Fire photos show Palisades destruction—"Looks like Mars"

Two more blazes broke out later on Tuesday. The Eaton Fire has since burned 1,000 acres in the hills above Altadena, prompting evacuation orders for parts of Altadena and Pasadena. The Hurst First has burned at least 500 acres in the San Fernando Valley and prompted evacuation orders for some parts of the area.

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass has declared a state of emergency, and officials have warned that the worst may be yet to come as extreme winds that are challenging efforts to contain the fires are expected to continue for days

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
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Well we knew this was coming, climate change yada, yada, yada.

Nothing about California radical democrat liberals bad policies.

1 posted on 01/08/2025 1:11:18 PM PST by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Climate change is here have no doubt
Too much rain too much drought
Run in circles scream and shout

It’ll cook your brain and freeze your feet
Too much rain too much heat

Snow coming soon no relief in sight
Tornados and floods you better run for your life

Climate change is here better hide in fear.
They need more money or it gets severe

Hurricanes on the way they’re comin soon
You’re all going to die in the next typhoon

Too much rain too much drought
Run in circles scream and shout


2 posted on 01/08/2025 1:14:05 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DallasBiff

It started with all the bad democrat policies that turned the area into a powder keg and then likely one of the many homeless, they created, just light the area on fire.

There is literally video of one homeless resident lighting fires in the area.

But I expect nothing less from a paper that sold for a penny and is less reliable than the national Enquirer, the only thing you excel at is yellow journalism and propaganda.


3 posted on 01/08/2025 1:14:53 PM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

Fire is a natural part of nature. It is essential in order for certain species to reproduce, persist, and thrive. Different plant communities have different fire cycle lengths. It might range from merely 8 years in a Table Mountain Pine forest to 400 years or longer in an American Beech/Sugar Maple forest.

A lot of the plant communities in the drier, rockier Western part of the United States have short term fire cycles. It’s just the way it is.

Sorry.


4 posted on 01/08/2025 1:16:42 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: DallasBiff

Climate is Weather but democrats are the real disaster


5 posted on 01/08/2025 1:16:55 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: DallasBiff
Is Climate Change To Blame for LA Wildfires?


6 posted on 01/08/2025 1:17:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: DallasBiff

Too hot—climate change

Too cold—climate change

Too moderate—climate change

Too wet—climate change

Too dry—climate change

Average moisture—climate change

High fire danger—climate change

Low fire danger—climate change

Average fire danger—climate change

I think they should replace all human writers with AI. This stuff is so easy a chimp could do it.


7 posted on 01/08/2025 1:18:28 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: DallasBiff

If they’ll never cut back the underbrush, Mother Nature will do it for them—and she doesn’t take prisoners.


8 posted on 01/08/2025 1:18:43 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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yeah sure... it’s the dead of winter


9 posted on 01/08/2025 1:19:21 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: DallasBiff

“Experts say...”

They need a rubber stamp to give voice to what the experts always say. It’s that trite.


10 posted on 01/08/2025 1:19:41 PM PST by Migraine
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

What an idiotic post, no one said fire was not part of nature, what is being said is the government did nothing to manage it.

Ever hear of brush clearing, or firebreaks, you know forest management. How about actually having resources on hand to mitigate fires etc..

What was the point of your post, to claim nothing could have been done? Take such liberal defeatism and insanity elsewhere.


11 posted on 01/08/2025 1:22:18 PM PST by Skwor
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To: DallasBiff

I guess no one told these fools to paint their roofs blue.

/ 🥜 🏀


12 posted on 01/08/2025 1:23:17 PM PST by chuck allen
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To: DallasBiff

So the area just self combusted?


13 posted on 01/08/2025 1:23:42 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: DallasBiff

Probably a typical California bum (homeless) fire… 🙄


14 posted on 01/08/2025 1:25:41 PM PST by nutmeg (Proud irredeemable deplorable bitter clingin’ piece of garbage)
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To: DallasBiff

Lots of homeless living in those foothills. It’s common in SoCal. You’ll see encampments in any green strips, especially near commercial areas.

When I lived in San Diego, homeless seemed to have taken over the entire Mission Valley along the San Diego River.

Its winter, so they’ll start a lot of fires.


15 posted on 01/08/2025 1:26:17 PM PST by PGR88
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To: SkyDancer

No dummy, it was started by DEW Weapons from space so that after the burn rich people could buy the land cheap and build expensive home and condos.

/ 🥜 🏀


16 posted on 01/08/2025 1:27:13 PM PST by chuck allen
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To: 9YearLurker

“cut back the underbrush”

California has a mixture of extremes. Lots of rain at times and prolonged drought. One can’t denude the hillsides because they’ll become mudslides.

California has long been called the Golden State because of its golden color dried grass.

Houses in marginal areas have to be made highly fire resistant and provided with in-ground fire-fighting water reservoirs such as swimming pools and underground water tanks.


17 posted on 01/08/2025 1:28:58 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: DallasBiff; sauropod; sasquatch; forester; AuntB; Askel5
As I said last night:

This State has no concept for vegetation management. You can deal with it mechanically (very expensive), you can burn it (air pollution and risk to structures), you can treat it chemically (nobody wants that), or you can have animals eat it and lose a money at it, producing local foods. Why?

Much of what is burning now never got going in the past because ranchers and herders once ran sheep, goats, and cattle. We never paid them for fuel mitigation. We potected predators running amok that savage their herds. We never maintained pathways for them to get their animals to places in need of treatment. None of that planning happened because developers (big Democrat donors) ran the show.

What did you expect?

4 posted on 01/07/2025 10:11:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)

I published a book about it 23 years ago. It contains 30-year timelines comparing residential land use against timber management on a real-time opportunity-cost basis against the 30-year bond in the County of Santa Cruz, CA. I was the first author of a UN Local Agenda 21 Biodiversity and Ecosystem Management Roundtable document in the country, if not the world. What I found was a crooked setup between real estate developers and bureaucrats manipulating environmental regulations and zoning law, a system to be coordinated across the entire planet. It predicted all of this. It was hand-carried into the White House by a former Senator... just before 911.

Yet Sowell wouldn't bother with it, I'm guessing, because he thinks he knows it all. He has no clue about the real consequences to system biodiversity. None of the favored elite of conservative pundits do. We could rip out a substantial fraction of the suburban middle class support for environmental regulations out from under the left, and I can't find any traction. Don't know why.

Another of our problems here is that institutional fear instilled by lawyers has made many firefighters risk averse. That means they don't do nearly as much hands-on firefighting as they once did. That makes them ever more clueless about what needs to be done, from actual firefighting to city planning for defensive measures, never mind actual vegetation management.

Consider this: How willing would a fire department be to cut a fire line through million-dollar homes as compared to the willingness to doze them once they've burned? This is where we are. What should happen is that a line of homes should be preset with easements to allow fire lines to be cut there. They'd be a lot cheaper to buy. Else, belts of undeveloped land should be dedicated fire lines within the city. Try and sell that to the developer community, banks, etc.

Again, this is where we are.

18 posted on 01/08/2025 1:30:09 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Skwor

“firebreaks”

Fire has been known to leap over interstates in California.


19 posted on 01/08/2025 1:30:33 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: All

Pacific Palisades is a long way from the natural forest cover in the San Gabriel range, with a large urban area in between, how did that particular fire start? Careless brush burn or arson possibly?


20 posted on 01/08/2025 1:30:48 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (For two countries with so many lawyers, there ain't much justice in Canada or America (yet))
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