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It’s time [for the UK] to become the 51st state of the US
The Telegraph ^ | December 26, 2024 | Poppy Coburn

Posted on 12/27/2024 10:44:55 AM PST by Mafe

‘The Briton... should cheerfully acquiesce in the decree of Destiny, and stand in betimes with the conquering American.” So said William Thomas Stead, the prominent Victorian newspaperman and strident reformer.

Stead looked at Britain’s colonial apotheosis with apprehension, understanding that the growth of new great powers meant “we can never again be the first”. As his countrymen grew fat and complacent on the spoils of imperial decadence, Stead saw clearly that the only avoidance of incipient decline would come by uniting our fortunes with those who had passed us in the great race.

He was not alone in believing that Britain’s future lay with the destiny of its most talented child. Anglo-Unionism attracted a wide cast of characters at the turn of the 19th century, from Lord Salisbury to Woodrow Wilson. Their motivations were not so alien to our own, fearing the trajectory of Britain without its imperial appendages, the opportunities and dangers of new communications technology, and the future of war. Too different from Europe to form any lasting alliance and too small to seriously consider autarky, “little Britain” would surely be doomed to irrelevance.

This feared future has since come to be. Governing the world is, for us, yesterday’s dream. Our territorial squabbles no longer define the course of history, but rather provide an opportunity for our leaders to provide yet more pointless concessions to foreign states.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 51st; brexit; britain; starmer; unitedkingdom; wedontwantthem
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On the plus side, at least Brits would no longer have to worry about being locked up for "offensive" speech and would be able to put a bullet into any raghead trying to do them harm. And the US government would do a much better job solving their migrant crisis than they have.

On the downside, since the British electorate is considerably further to the left than ours, this would undoubtedly mean tens of millions of new Democratic voters brought into the fold 😶

1 posted on 12/27/2024 10:44:55 AM PST by Mafe
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Never going to happen.


2 posted on 12/27/2024 10:47:02 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Mafe

First a break away then a take away, hell yeah! lol


3 posted on 12/27/2024 10:47:45 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Polls are designed to sell more ads & polls only. If it's not a horse race the money dries up.)
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Fraud denial?

The popularity on the ground of Reform UK says otherwise about UK’s electorate.


4 posted on 12/27/2024 10:48:42 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Mafe
Stead looked at Britain’s colonial apotheosis with apprehension, understanding that the growth of new great powers meant “we can never again be the first”. As his countrymen grew fat and complacent on the spoils of imperial decadence, Stead saw clearly that the only avoidance of incipient decline would come by uniting our fortunes with those who had passed us in the great race.

Rudyard Kipling also saw that in his poem "Recessional".

5 posted on 12/27/2024 10:48:58 AM PST by Publius
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Oh yeah, just what we need more drunken freeloading socialists. No thank you.


6 posted on 12/27/2024 10:49:19 AM PST by Mastador1
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To: Mafe

No thanks. The Brits need to figure it out by themselves.


7 posted on 12/27/2024 10:49:56 AM PST by Salvavida (NS)
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To: Mafe

We already have a 51st state in the eastern Mediterranean.


8 posted on 12/27/2024 10:50:42 AM PST by BigJimSportCamper
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To: Mafe

Nothing short of the return of Excalibur and the right man to wield it can save England now.


9 posted on 12/27/2024 10:53:08 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Yeah, what do we get out of this, besides an ego boost in a nationalist sense?

Why should we want them?

Also, do you get the whole United Kingdom as a single state?
Or do you have many new states, like England, Wales, Scotland, and N.Ireland?
Do any of those have the opportunity to opt out and rejoin the EU or be independent?


10 posted on 12/27/2024 10:53:29 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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“On the plus side, at least Brits would no longer have to worry about being locked up for “offensive” speech and would be able to put a bullet into any raghead trying to do them harm.”

Our Constitution ONLY SURVIVES as a working document if Republicans are appointing and confirming judges. If not, we will become like UK, and likely even worse, given our demographics, including our history of slavery. It should have NEVER come to this, but then the US Constitution was never designed to survive Universal Voting, so we now have a party dedicated to ridding the US of the Constitution in all but name.

Unfortunately, a large number of FReepers cannot get the above through their thick heads and so continue claiming that Democrats are better than RINOs (although some are almost certainly trolling here). I have kids and grandkids, so this type of stuff worries me, big time, but I suspect that most of the ‘purists’ here (those who prefer Democrats over RINOs) either don’t have kids, or simply don’t care about the future of their kids (or, again, are trolling us to depress voting).


11 posted on 12/27/2024 10:55:34 AM PST by BobL
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I say we give Vermont and Massachusetts back to the UK instead. Maybe throw in Rhode Island and Connecticut.


12 posted on 12/27/2024 10:58:01 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Do the math. L+G+B+T+Q = 666)
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NO. JUST NO.


13 posted on 12/27/2024 10:59:02 AM PST by nickcarraway
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I am actually for getting rid of a few States. Let’s cut the fat.


14 posted on 12/27/2024 11:03:38 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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It’s time [for the UK] to become the 51st state of the US

Heck, why not?

And, while we're at it, let's go and turn all countries and territories that depend upon the U.S. for defense, into American states. That would make all NATO countries part of the U.S. of the World. (USW? or UWS?). Problem then would be that Russia would complain about the UWS inching close to its borders. But then, Russia too could opt to join the United World States. The UN would no longer be necessary, since the UWS would essentially be the United Nations.

Let's get it done! No more wars. Only political wars within the UWS. ;)
15 posted on 12/27/2024 11:06:35 AM PST by adorno ( )
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To: Mafe

I could see that happening.

But the the Sparkles would have to move again................


16 posted on 12/27/2024 11:07:07 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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Let’s start with NY, NJ, MA, VT, CA, OR, and WA (where I live, so I will have to move).


17 posted on 12/27/2024 11:08:18 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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First they would have to get rid of the Muslims and their sharia laws who have invaded their nation. We have enough headaches in this nation as it is!


18 posted on 12/27/2024 11:09:53 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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And that’s just the ragheads!!


19 posted on 12/27/2024 11:10:21 AM PST by LouAvul (He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God. [2 Sam 23:3])
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You’ll have to send that Royal family of yours into exile. We won’t have them residing in any one of our states.

You gotta put your steering wheels on the correct side of your car and stop driving on the wrong side of the road.


20 posted on 12/27/2024 11:15:49 AM PST by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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