Posted on 12/27/2024 7:17:42 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Wisconsin Senate member-elect Dora Drake (D) is pushing for a red flag law in the wake of the December 16, 2024, Madison Christian school shooting.
Drake has not explained how a red flag law would prevent a 15-year-old girl–the age and gender of the alleged Madison shooter–from carrying out an attack since such an individual is already too young to legally buy a firearm.
Moreover, Drake did not address the fact that California has a red-flag law yet the Golden State led the nation in “active shooter incidents” in 2021 and 2023.
Instead, Drake focused on Republicans’ opposition to red flag laws and other gun controls, suggesting the lack of gun laws put lives in danger.
Urban Milwaukee quoted Drake saying, “As Democrats, we just want common sense laws on gun control, and that doesn’t mean we’re trying to take away someone’s Second Amendment rights…People are tired of life being unnecessarily taken away.”
Wisconsin Carry Inc.’s Nik Clark countered Drake by pointing out, “Ninety-fiv
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She cannot legally buy a hand gun. This fall on her parents for not locking up th guns.
IIRC-—THERE ARE MORE THAN 600,000 registered HUNTERS in WISCONSIN.
GUNS are not self-users.
MENTAL health issues are at the core of this.
HOW ABOUT locking up the MENTAL CASES???
Red Flag laws are just another tool in the demonic toolbox of corrupt divorce lawyers for faithless (heterosexual) wives.
If we only had 40,000 + 1 gun laws.....
Election is over. Now they can tell us what they really think.
The worst school massacre in American history was accomplished with explosives, not with a firearm. If all firearms magically disappeared, unstable people will just find another method.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
another CONgresscritter that can’t read. we have a Bill of Rights that States Clearly and succinctly that the Right of the PEOPLE(that’s you, me and every other American) to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. there are no if’s, ands, buts or requirements. in fact, dear CONgresscritters, “The only restriction written into the Second Amendment is a restriction on legislating restrictions” L.Star
If the social compact is in good standing.
However our country's social compact has been blown up, and in that case, red flag laws are a horrible idea.
Once upon a time 99.99% of the people in the country would say, "A man wearing women's clothes, and thinks he is a woman has mental issues. That is an individual who should not be allowed to carry a gun." Obviously not the case now. Likewise, there is a not insignificant number of people who think being a Republican is reason enough to not allow one to own a gun, and is a "red flag"
That’d be a rational act by a civilized nation of intelligent people, which we are no longer. Perhaps in the future we will again be such a nation, but for now, we’ll have to endure these yayhoos (the demonically driven democrats) and the maniacs (the destructive, angry ‘homeless’ and the homicidal psychopaths) as we put this ship on a new course. May God inspire, guide, and help us as we do so. (And yes, for the record, and despite the pseudo-intellectual sneers, I believe Trump turning his head at precisely the right split-second was a miracle...)
Yeah.
I have suspected for a while now they are making their own “luck”.
Isn’t it weird that no one is talking about the can that ol’ Luigi used in New York?
No one.
We never were that nation and never will be.
No Governing body of humans should have the power to do this.
Here’s the problem.
They also would have said _____ people should not be allowed to carry guns.
Insert whatever. black, Jewish, conspiracy theorist, gay, transvestite, muslim, white, extremist, etc.
Humans should not have this power over others. It will be abused.
Also, precrime is always a bad idea.
It is partially the parents’ fault. Over, say 12 years old, kids will do things specifically to get mom and dad thrown in jail. In most states, 12 yo can legally stay by themselves and babysit so the law is saying they are old enough to make their own decisions. They can get dropped off at the school’s front door and watched as they walk inside but should the parent be jailed because little Suzie walks out the back door with a gun in her backpack to meet up with 23 year old gangster drug dealer boyfriend? Where do you draw the line on being a good parent or a good for nothing parent?
Why have a gun if you have to ask the masked man who just broke in to wait a couple minutes until you climb in the top of the closet to get the gun out of the locked box (”Hmm, what was the combination again?”), load it (Honey, where did we hide the bullets?) and finally aim it at Mr. Bad Guy?
And the law also allows a hospital to hold a person against his/her will if they're deemed to be a threat. I worked in a big city ER and saw it done regularly. There was a state psych hospital literally across the street and we sent patients there as a matter of routine.
If one is too unstable to have a gun he/she is too unstable to be walking around free.
Red flag laws have nothing to do with safety just as taxes on cigarettes have nothing to do with health. They're a direct attack on 2nd Amendment rights.
“Red Flag” laws are all about Democrats getting yet another handle for persecuting people they do not like. These laws have nothing to do with “public safety”.
We’ll have to report Dora and her family. They may be dangerous.
I oppose red flag laws even if certain mentally ill people should not have access to guns. Here’s why:
1. Due process is required by the Constitution and is necessary for ALL of our freedoms, including the right to bear arms.
2. The power to determine who is mentally ill will be abused.
3. The threat of gun confiscation may be triggering for some mentally ill people, making them more likely to act in a dangerous manner.
4. Government, and law enforcement specifically, should not be in the business of crime prevention.
At least not directly. Punishment of crime should serve as a deterrent. But putting guard rails up to prevent even the possibility of a crime should never happen at the expense of encroaching on anyone’s natural rights.
Redirect these efforts at swift and just punishment of crime. Quit making government the go-to solution to every societal problem and, instead, get it out of the way so that people can be free and prosperous. Free and prosperous people are more likely to help those in need because they are not busy just trying to survive.
Our society has seen more violence in correlation to injustice in the justice system, political support for the destructive agenda-driven sex-obsessed culture war, the war on drugs, and handing out legal psychotropic drugs (as medication) like they’re candy.
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