Romania, Hungary, and Poland reclaim some of their historic territories back….Vlad gets his, they get theirs
Posted on 11/22/2024 7:52:39 AM PST by delta7
Ukrainian intelligence agencies released a serious claim that the Russian Ministry of Defense leaked the Kremlin’s final plan for Ukraine that involves separating the nation into three territories. ( See proposed map).
Ukraine News states that their source will propose the divided territories to Donald Trump once he enters the White House, with plans taking until 2045 to achieve.
Although no one can confirm this information with certainty, the proposal—which no one will accept—is quite interesting. To begin, Russia will absorb the eastern regions, including but not limited to currently Russian-occupied territories.
The second territory, the “pro-Russian state entity,” would not be within Russia but rather a Russian-controlled state. The third portion of land would be considered “disputed territory” that neighboring nations like Romania, Hungary, and Poland could absorb as they see fit.
The alleged leaked document also envisions two possible scenarios for victory over Ukraine. Scenario one is the “formation of a multipolar world and the division of spheres of influence by leading actors,” while scenario two is “regionalization/chaotization.” The press has not revealed the exact nature of either scenario, but in both cases, Russia will take back the land that started this entire conflict.
There are also two unfavorable scenarios: “dominance of the U.S. and the West” and “acquisition by China of the status of the world’s leading power.” A situation where China usurps Ukraine for itself is quite amusing.
The documents allegedly state that “one of the most important tasks is to create a new world order.” That has NEVER been the intention. I must say this all sounds like fearmongering for the West. Kyiv Intendent reported Russia has been attempting to overpower the US and post-World War II global financial system.
These claims are completely baseless and have no footing in reality. Russia has begged to be accepted into the international community for purposes of cooperation and trade for decades, long before Putin was appointed by Yeltsin. Russia was a shunned nation long before Ukraine or even Crimea for that matter. Putin has been pleading with West for its very existence – but the answer is always NO.
Poland will not take a piece of Ukraine.
Having Ukrainians and Poles living together didn’t exactly turn out well the last time.
Red Ukraine for Putin, Blue Ukraine for the part paid for with Bidenbucks.
yes, they will.
If this were agreed to, would it not put the lie to all the BS slung around re: Ukraine?
It will be pretzel making time for the Zeepers.
Romania, Hungary, and Poland reclaim some of their historic territories back….Vlad gets his, they get theirs
Having Ukrainians and Poles living together didn’t exactly turn out well the last time.
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Genocide the last time, by the Ukro Nazis and Bandera. Two years ago non western MSM uncovered a proposal. Basically Poland gets their historic land back from Ukraine through the use of Polish “ Peacekeepers”, ( not exactly, but the only translation available).
In any case, carving up what’s left of Ukraine has been discussed. We shall see.
Pure speculation on my part (because I can't read people's minds or foretell the future like some of the more vociferous Zelvis fans ;^), but I suspect Russia and the US will negotiate terms, and Ukraine will accept the results. The odds that the final picture will involve Russia retreating to pre-war borders are probably close to zero, and I doubt that the rest of Ukraine would be divied up among NATO countries, because that would put NATO on Russia's border in the Ukraine region (which was reportedly one of the perceived problems in the first place). Obviously, Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin will figure something out (if neither one of them is assassinated by their enemies in the meantime)...
Unless the pre-Crimea-as-Russia borders can be enforced, it already has. So, yeah. It already has.
I think you’re unaware that Poland has taken over a big section of eastern Ukraine already.
The way this is playing out Little Z-Man is going to have to go back to playing the piano with his penis - until the day angry Ukrainian citizens get a hold of him and hang him.
“Yep, as many suspected, Romania, Hungary, and Poland reclaim some of their historic territories back….Vlad gets his, they get theirs, sounds good to me.”
Agree, although I could see something else also happening, which would be for the US to leave NATO and pull our troops out of Europe - something that Trump wants to do anyway.
In exchange the middle part of what was Ukraine would not have to be occupied by Russia, since the only purpose is to keep NATO out. Of course if NATO reconstitutes, then this leaked plan takes shape. And if Europe decides to again ‘get cute’, they’ll have to deal with Russia alone.
The real problem may wind up being Belarus, if the situation deteriorates there, I could see the Russians moving in, which would put them right on Poland’s border. (Yes I know they are already in Kaliningrad, but the Polish-Belarus Border is much longer)
Any solution involving Ukraine, had better involve Belarus as well. Lukashenko won’t be there forever, and there’s nothing to stop the Russians moving in, then Ukraine becomes a moot point.
A good chunk of Ukraine, was historically Poland.
At one time Poland had a good chunk of Russia as well.
3 lol
Blackrock, Vanguard and Russia?
Putin can go to hell.
The ONLY way to end this is for Russia to LEAVE it’s peaceful neighbor country.
That proposed division should have occurred sometime between 2004-2014, but Obamaites and forever-war joined forces to create a corruptocracy the actions of which were casus belli to the current situation.
Now? One can hope it doesn’t end in gigadeaths.
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