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Jordan Neely’s cause of death wasn’t Daniel Penny chokehold — but ‘combined effects’ of drugs, struggle and schizophrenia: defense expert
NY Post ^ | 11/21/2024 | Melanie Marich and Kyle Schnitzer

Posted on 11/22/2024 2:44:56 AM PST by Kid Shelleen

Daniel Penny’s chokehold of Jordan Neely isn’t what killed the homeless man — he died from the “combined effects” of synthetic marijuana, schizophrenia and other factors, the defense’s medical expert testified Thursday.

Dr. Satish Chundru, a forensic pathologist based in Texas, told jurors in Manhattan Supreme Court that Neely’s autopsy records and video of the fatal F train altercation in May 2023 didn’t show signs typical of known chokehold deaths.

“In your opinion, did Mr. Penny choke Mr. Neely to death?” Penny’s attorney Steven Raiser asked.

“No,” replied Chundru, “the chokehold did not cause death.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: danielpenny; jordanneely; newyork; subway
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1 posted on 11/22/2024 2:44:56 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Bogdin(sp?) was on Fox yesterday saying the opposite.


2 posted on 11/22/2024 2:48:07 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Kid Shelleen

What’s amazing is they had to fly her in from Texas to save Penny from prison. This ‘victim’ was a waste of human skin and the left can’t leave it at that. I’m sure most of the riders on the subway were leftists-it’s NY.

It’s like judge shopping. We’re being played.


3 posted on 11/22/2024 2:49:13 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Kid Shelleen

Sounds awful familiar. /St. George of Fentanyl.


4 posted on 11/22/2024 3:08:51 AM PST by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

You can play this out in your mind....if Penny had delayed five minutes, and been on another train....none of this would have happened. Neely would have gone on...6 days, 6 weeks, 6 months....to where he pushed some gal/guy off a platform and killed someone.

Then in court, they would have brought up his poor mental state of mind, and use of fentanyl.


5 posted on 11/22/2024 3:12:59 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Kid Shelleen

Petechiae on the eyelids are consistent with asphyxiation, but not indicative.

I’ve had petechiae from vomiting.


6 posted on 11/22/2024 3:23:20 AM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..we)
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To: Kid Shelleen

So, we can expect him to share the same cell with Derek Chauvin, who didn’t kill George Floyd? I see how this “fair” system of justice works.


7 posted on 11/22/2024 3:24:33 AM PST by Fireone (Americans have had enough.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Pray there’s a juror with a iota of conscience for the good Samaratin: Daniel Penny.


8 posted on 11/22/2024 3:38:14 AM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Even if Neely had sickle cell disease- how do you survive on the street with sickle cell - the legal principle is you take your victim as you find him. His disabilities are not your defense.


9 posted on 11/22/2024 3:39:40 AM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..we)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I read here:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4280094/posts

that a woman in GA was arrested because her 10-year-old went for a walk by himself.

Meanwhile, Jordan Neely, loaded with drugs and schizophrenia, was out by himself and that’s ok.

He’s dead because he wasn’t in an institution for his own safety and that of others. Someone stepped up to prevent homicides and now he’s facing a prison sentence for that.

Who put a rabid animal on a subway train?

The guilty party here is the American left. This is a problem they caused, and they’ve doubled down on it. Lock up the righteous, and import more criminals by the millions. The righteous can never be excused, the criminals can never be held responsible.

And nobody has the guts to rise up against it. We may slow it down for four years...or two...because one man obviously has the guts, and he’s 78 years old. We need only a few million more like that.

Until (unless) then, the left will take out men like Penny, one at a time. He’ll probably be found innocent, but he’ll probably never put himself in legal peril again.


10 posted on 11/22/2024 3:46:46 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: mad_as_he$$

My niece went to high school with this young man... she said he was one of the nicest guys in her class... always looked to help others in need...

I pray God intervenes here and puts in at least ones persons heart to find him innocent...

In the end, it is unlikely he meant to kill him... but only to stop him from the possibility of hurting others...

Sad situation all around...


11 posted on 11/22/2024 4:00:24 AM PST by PigRigger
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To: Kid Shelleen

And the gentle giant m brown did not die because the po lice were mean to him


12 posted on 11/22/2024 4:09:02 AM PST by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: Buttons12

Schizophrenia is a terrible disease!
There are medications, and in mild cases people can function to some degree, but in many cases it just cannot be controlled.
I knew one very nice young, gifted guy who suddenly got it, (as usual, it starts in puberty, most victims are male) and became a danger to himself and everybody around. Very sad story!
These people are not just very crazy, they do kill in many cases!
Tucson shooter of Gaby Giffords and the Aurora Theatre shooter were both schizophrenics!
People like this, with schizophrenia not under control, should not be allowed to roam the streets!


13 posted on 11/22/2024 4:34:06 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: PigRigger

Thanks for sharing. We can hope and pray that the jury has at least one person that is sick of the crime on the subway and NYC in general.


14 posted on 11/22/2024 4:35:31 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Kid Shelleen

The synthetic cannabis is very dangerous. I attended a medical conference a few years ago when these drugs first became popular. ER physicians told horrible stories of cases they handled. You might remember the stories of people eating other people like animals. A common side effect was severe schizophrenia for life from one time use.

The JWH molecules were first synthesized by John William Huffman at Clemson University in the late 1990s. Many of the synthetic drugs names begin with the initials of their original creator. It is many times stronger than the THC in cannabis.

Compared to THC, which is a partial agonist at CB1 receptors, JWH-018, and many synthetic cannabinoids, are full agonists. JWH-018 may cause intense anxiety, agitation, and in rare cases, has been assumed to have been the cause of seizures and convulsions. JWH-018 and analogs of it may present serious dangers to the user when used to excess.

On 15 October 2011, Anderson County coroner Greg Shore attributed the death of a South Carolina college basketball player to “drug toxicity and organ failure” caused by JWH-018.

Studies have shown that cardiac toxicity is among the main side effects observed in emergency departments: Synthetic cannabis intake induces harmful effects such as hypertension, tachycardia, chest pain, arrhythmias, myocardial infarction, breathing impairment, and dyspnea.

These drugs are very cheap and are turning the world population into walking dead.


15 posted on 11/22/2024 4:58:20 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Kid Shelleen

so the left has a reason to nail another white man to the cross for killing an “innocent” black man no matter what. WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE TRAIN that were threatened and wasn’t there a black man helping to subdue this maniac. Will the radcial pukes in charge allow thier testimony in his defense


16 posted on 11/22/2024 5:13:04 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Kid Shelleen
My thought is that regardless of cause of death, two questions need to be answered to make a judgement.

1 - Was it fair to perceive Neely's actions and words were a threat to anyone on the train.

2 - Was Penny's intent to kill/hurt Neely or to protect others?

Neely was a man with many problems, acute schizophrenia and drug addiction to name a few. These are what contributed to his erratic behavior. Mentally deranged people like him need care and supervision and should likely be in a mental institution.

Neely's end is very sad. Except for the grace of God, anyone of us could be a Neely or a Penny.

Pray that the judge and jury does what's right.

17 posted on 11/22/2024 5:39:34 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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This case and the reasons behind it are why no man with two brain cells will ever defend anyone else in a blue city.


18 posted on 11/22/2024 1:10:46 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Theophilus

Sounds like Neely needed killin’ and the only reason that Penny is on trial is because Neely was from a superior race.


19 posted on 11/22/2024 1:22:09 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It matters not.

Daniel Penny stopped a violent, psychotic, known criminal from doing harm to innocent citizens.

He should be revered as a hero.

The NY attorney general, the judges and any other beuracratic entity that facilitated leaving this monster to prey on the citizenry - should be the ones on trial.


20 posted on 11/22/2024 2:01:47 PM PST by CTyank
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