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DOGE: Waste, Fraud, and Abuse in Government are Not the Problem -- Bureaucratic Power is
American Thinker ^ | John F. Di Leo

Posted on 11/15/2024 3:45:03 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Many are dancing an Irish jig – even non-Irishmen whom one would not expect to know such dances – over the prospect of Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy heading up a new “Grace Commission 2.0” of sorts, cheerfully nicknamed a Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE.

They intend an 18-month project, hopefully to conclude by our nation’s 250th anniversary, in which they will apply standard American manufacturing cost-cutting techniques such as LEAN and Six Sigma tools, to find out how much fat is in every federal department, bureau and agency, and cut it out as fast as possible.

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However, if all the government does is continue to do what it does today with just 80%, or 70%, or even 50% of the employees, that will still not be a victory.

Why not? Because the usual targets of such a project – “waste, fraud and abuse” – are not America’s main problem with our federal government.

Our problem isn’t that the government is too big or too costly.

Our problem is that it has gone rogue.

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Legally, every federal agency is limited in two ways: the agency can only exercise the powers granted to it by Congress, and Congress itself had to have the Constitutional authority to grant it such power in the first place.

But the government stopped honoring these two restrictions over a century ago.

Once Congress sets up an agency, it loses interest in what that agency does, so its oversight is usually limited to a brief moment of funding discussion when the annual budget fight comes along. Because of this lack of real oversight, far too many of the nation’s bureaucrats soon discover that their power to overregulate is limited only by their own Napoleonic imagination.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budget; bureaucracy; doge; elonmusk; spending; vivekramaswamy
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1 posted on 11/15/2024 3:45:03 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
On more point from the article:
There is no need, incidentally, to feel sorry for the people to be cut in this process. The DOGE team knows the law, and fully understands the rules about terminating civil servants. These people will likely get an enviable mix of cash buyouts and federal pensions that reward them more handsomely than they deserve for their years of bureaucratic pencil pushing.

2 posted on 11/15/2024 3:49:27 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson paraphrased, "If you strike at the king, don't fail." They failed. )
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To: RoosterRedux

rules about terminating civil servants...
Tempered with retribution and deterrents that the law also provides for those who violate such laws.
There, fixed it.


3 posted on 11/15/2024 3:59:23 AM PST by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: RoosterRedux

Anyone know how to apply for Elon and Vivek’s initiative? My idea will same approximately $20 billion a year, give more people the opportunity to earn good wages and we can hold those agencies accountable. It also can be implemented within six months and I already have a template for how to do it.


4 posted on 11/15/2024 4:01:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Drill Baby Drill!)
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To: RoosterRedux

If the government is cut by 50%, it will have less power.

I want it to have less power. I think drastic budget cuts are one important tool for achieving that goal.


5 posted on 11/15/2024 4:06:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (My decisions about people are based almost entirely on skin color. I learned this from Democrats.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Our problem isn’t that the government is too big or too costly.

Our problem is that it has gone rogue.

These two things go together like a hand and glove.

6 posted on 11/15/2024 4:12:07 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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7 posted on 11/15/2024 4:12:57 AM PST by DFG
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To: EQAndyBuzz

This was posted by @DOGE on X (formerly Twitter). “We are very grateful to the thousands of Americans who have expressed interest in helping us at DOGE. We don’t need more part-time idea generators. We need super high-IQ small-government revolutionaries willing to work 80+ hours per week on unglamorous cost-cutting. If that’s you, DM this account with your CV. Elon & Vivek will review the top 1% of applicants.”
Good luck!


8 posted on 11/15/2024 4:16:47 AM PST by BlissinNC
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To: EQAndyBuzz
On X at @DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency), applicants are encouraged to submit their resumes by DM (which I presume means "direct messaging" on X).
9 posted on 11/15/2024 4:16:56 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson paraphrased, "If you strike at the king, don't fail." They failed. )
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Musk is vary aware of the issue of overregulation by the bureaucracy. I saw him twice in the month before the election talk about the fact that SpaceX can get a rocket back on the pad quicker than the bureaucracy can process the paperwork for approval, that there are way too many regulations AND regulators in the way. He covered this in his Joe Rogan interview and in another talk I saw him give, don’t remember exactly.

So don’t think he’s just going for process improvements to reduce headcount.


10 posted on 11/15/2024 4:28:22 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Recompennation

If Trump thinks this can and should be done, this...

https://www.flra.gov/50th_Anniversary_EO10988

...should be rescinded his first day back.


11 posted on 11/15/2024 4:31:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: FreedomPoster
From 1963...

Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome

12 posted on 11/15/2024 4:32:52 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: BlissinNC

That’ll be some nuclear brainpower! I think PDJT said something like this effort will be a modern day Manhattan Project.


13 posted on 11/15/2024 4:36:27 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Not the whore in '24.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Our problem is that it has gone rogue.

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We can blame the gov’t but in reality it is the voters who
allow this to happen is also a part of and maybe the larger
part of the problem.


14 posted on 11/15/2024 4:38:17 AM PST by deport
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To: RoosterRedux

Immediate hiring freeze at every fedzilla agency would be a good start. Let attrition work its magic on reducing the number of useless bureaucrats.

Then bring in the head of every agency to congressional hearings to detail how they will reduce existing regulations by 85% within 6 months. Fire them if they fail.


15 posted on 11/15/2024 4:43:53 AM PST by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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The DOGE needs to look first at every department in the context of the Constitution of the United States, alongside the legislation that authorized the existence of the agency.
The real question isn’t “How many bureaucrats can we cut?” – it’s “How thoroughly and quickly can we restore this agency’s obedience to the rule of law?”

The article makes a good point.

16 posted on 11/15/2024 4:45:30 AM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be a slave in a new Socialist America.)
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DOGE: Waste, Fraud, and Abuse in Government are Not the Problem -- Bureaucratic Power is

No, I'd say both are a big problem. Bureaucratic and institutional power can be mitigated by defunding and permanently closing/ending useless and/or politicized federal institutions, agencies and departments.

We need Congress to ELIMINATE many federal institutions, agencies and departments. If Congress merely trims budgets, like a cancer, they will more easily be restored under a different administration.

Sadly, our Congresses have proven to do what's in their best interest, not the best interest of the American people.

17 posted on 11/15/2024 4:53:11 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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Can someone tell me how this is going to happen? If seems incredibly hard to fire a federal employee. Then when you do they sue and get paid.

I remember a VA employee from years ago that stole and they still couldn’t get rid of her.


18 posted on 11/15/2024 4:57:51 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RoosterRedux

Both are.

Cut the power and defund all the useless pet money laundering projects.


19 posted on 11/15/2024 5:00:14 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: BlissinNC
This was posted by @DOGE on X (formerly Twitter). “We are very grateful to the thousands of Americans who have expressed interest in helping us at DOGE. We don’t need more part-time idea generators. We need super high-IQ small-government revolutionaries willing to work 80+ hours per week on unglamorous cost-cutting. If that’s you, DM this account with your CV. Elon & Vivek will review the top 1% of applicants.”

Sorry, 80+ hours work weeks are not acceptable.

There's nothing wrong with 40 hour work weeks, requiring in office presence. Sure, that would mean twice as many people, but otherwise, they'll burn out. People have lives and families and need to eat and sleep and downtime.

20 posted on 11/15/2024 5:05:04 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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