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Tim Walz Says He Won't Help His Mother Buy Groceries: She Depends on the Government
Hot Air ^ | October 19, 2024 | David Strom

Posted on 10/21/2024 5:29:08 AM PDT by george76

Truthfully, that is NOT exactly what he said, but there is a point to my headline: Democrats think that social obligations should be fulfilled by the government.

The social insurance state was not originally intended to substitute government for family and church assistance to people in need but as a backstop to ensure that people without others to assist them didn't fall through the cracks. All else failing, the government would ensure that nobody starved to death or was left to rot on the side of the road.

Civilized societies do not view people as disposable; smart societies do not try to substitute bureaucracy for the much more enlivening love and community that are necessary to sustain us.

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Tim Walz's story about his mom is unintentionally revealing in this context. If we were to believe Tim, his mother would starve without her Social Security check arriving on time.

That says more about Tim than about Social Security, the government, Donald Trump, Republicans, or whoever he is trying to make a point about. If this were literally true, Tim Walz is a monster.

Of course, it is not LITERALLY true. First of all, you have to work hard to be food insecure in the United States. The only reason somebody becomes food insecure is that there is some fundamental dysfunction in the person or their caretaker. A child may have a drug-abusing parent, for instance, which is a tragedy, of course, but not a failure of society. We live in a country where, when people are in need, strangers will fly in helicopters and drop off food and supplies at the drop of a hat.

So what Tim is really saying is something different: the government ought to be the primary caretaker for everybody, including his mother. He shouldn't have to care for her; caring is a job to be outsourced.

That has been the ideological foundation of the welfare statists for over a century. It is a foundational principle of Marxism, which aims to substitute the state for the family. "It takes a village," as it were, because it shouldn't be the parents themselves who raise children or children who take care of their parents as they age.

Child care centers substitute for families. Schools substitute for parents. Social workers determine your child's gender. Colleges teach morality instead of churches. The government is there to take care of you; in exchange, you only need to give your labor and your soul.

Friedrich Engels, it turns out, was the real prophet of Marxism. Karl Marx believed in the economic inevitability of communism; Engles, on the other hand, believed that communism would come about through the destruction of the family and social institutions. It was a project, not a historical inevitability, although a project that runs in parallel with the historical inevitability of communism.

Both Marx and Engels see family relationships as an artificial construct, and modern liberals basically concur. Walz has worked assiduously to undermine family ties here in Minnesota--children can liberate themselves from parents who disapprove of their gender transitions and become wards of the state. They call it a "trans sanctuary" state, but it is another way to divorce children from parents and substitute the state for parents. Schools keep secrets from parents; teachers substitute state morality for that taught at home and in churches.

No doubt Tim Walz loves his mother and would not let her starve. But his message is clear: the state over the family. He assumes his rallygoers will sympathize with the notion that taking care of his mother is the state's responsibility, not react in horror at the notion he presents that she would languish in filth and starve were it not for a monthly check from the government.

Social Security is here to stay. We have paid into it, and our economic security is tied to it, so my quibble is not that it needn't be run efficiently and reliably. I have paid into it for more than four decades, so I want my meager return on investment.

But it appalls me to see a son so cavalierly describe his mother as nearly destitute without the government's help. This man is a governor, a candidate for Vice President, and a lifelong government employee.

If his mother needed a basket of groceries, couldn't he help her out?

It never occurred to him to answer that question.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: government; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 10/21/2024 5:29:08 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
The only reason somebody becomes food insecure is that there is some fundamental dysfunction in the person or their caretaker.

The government considers someone 'food insecure' if they answer this question affirmatively, "Have you ever felt hungry?"

They also are now defining 'food deserts' when a person lives more than 1 mile (walking distance) away from any food/grocery establishment.

2 posted on 10/21/2024 5:34:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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3 posted on 10/21/2024 5:35:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: george76

Tim, send you mom “Farmers Dog”. I hear it is pretty good.


4 posted on 10/21/2024 5:43:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: george76

Marx and Engels...
If I recall history correctly, Marx was a freeloader who lived off money earned by Engel’s parents.

Mom and dad Engels were wealthy from hard work and savings. Their son was a basement dwelling spoiled brat with his best friend metaphorically crashing on his parents couch, while the parents funded these two gritters as they peddled theories to perpetuate the demise of societies.

Sounds like typical leftists today


5 posted on 10/21/2024 5:47:00 AM PDT by Z28.310 (does not comply well with others)
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I wish we had a choice with SS. Instead of being forced into a gov't plan, when you get your first job, you are given this choice: 1) Buy into the gov'ts Social Security plan, or 2) buy a private plan. You must choose one and the amount going into each one per paycheck is the same. If took my average balance over over 47 years and compounded it at 5%. I would have over $1.2 million in my account if I had control over it. As it is, compared to what I and the matching sum paid in by my employers, I will have to live to 137 to break even. But, the gov't won't let me have that choice because they need a fund they can raid for current spending. For those who don't want the responsibility, pick Option 1, but let me choose Option 2.
6 posted on 10/21/2024 5:47:25 AM PDT by econjack
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To: george76

In other words.... the greater goal is that once you have exhausted your usefulness your carcass should be rendered into other usable products.


7 posted on 10/21/2024 5:49:01 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The dawn cracks hard like a bull whip and it ain't taking no lip from the night before" Tom Waits)
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To: econjack

Social Security will be bankrupt by 2033 ( likely sooner ) .. the balance in the trust funds will decline to zero. ~Congressional Budget Office.. with Medicare not far behind..


8 posted on 10/21/2024 5:54:59 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: econjack

“...wish we had a choice with SS. Instead of being forced into a gov’t plan, when you get your first job, you are given this choice: 1) Buy into the gov’ts Social Security plan, or 2) buy a private plan...”

Like the railroad? Sounds like a plan, sounds like a good route. Taking into consideration things like there is never been a successful Railroad in the United States that has not been subsidized by the government.

Why Social Security is not a lock box like Clinton/Gore “promised” and the monies are spent for operational costs etc...(i.e. zookeeper funds at el..) is beyond me and not in keeping with the general premise that we were lied to about back when all this crap started... thank you FDR.


9 posted on 10/21/2024 5:57:04 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The dawn cracks hard like a bull whip and it ain't taking no lip from the night before" Tom Waits)
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To: econjack

SS is the Tar Baby designed to wed America to Communism. With it, America will never be the Land of the Free, again. You can thank FDR, or more properly, Elenor.

My first boss out of college taught me to not be overly concerned with taxes. We write off a lot of what we are willing to exchange for pay. We pay more for a shorter commute, or to live in a nice neighborhood, where we might get a better return on housing.

You always have your Option 2, and really need to take care of yourself, despite the Government con-job.


10 posted on 10/21/2024 5:57:11 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Z28.310

“SEVEN MEN WHO RULE THE WORLD FROM THE GRAVE”
By David Breese

Excellent book!

The seven are;
Charles Darwin
Karl Marx
Julius Wellhausen
John Dewey
Sigmund Freud
John Maynard Keynes
Soren Kierkegaard

Each contributed ideological poison to the world, which circulates to this day.

Book is available online and highly edifying reading.
Copyright 1990, but timeless in truth.


11 posted on 10/21/2024 5:57:59 AM PDT by Z28.310 (does not comply well with others)
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To: econjack

One would think independent self-control of your assets is a plus. Before I retired I’d put a great deal of my other retirement funds into supposedly safe market funds. But Obama had an undue influence on the market then with his GM shenanigans, and prior Democrat influence on the market with what eventually became the Credit Derivative mess.

I lost about half the value of what I’d had in it.


12 posted on 10/21/2024 5:58:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: george76

I’d like to know how the relations between him and his mother stand. He must be a real TURD


13 posted on 10/21/2024 5:58:47 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: Red Badger

When the pandemic struck, the first thing blue state governors like Putz, Whitmer and Cuomo did was to infect nursing homes with COVID patients to cull seniors from state aid. The mas kill off raised the death count, generated hysteria for draconian economic and school lockdowns and saved the state money. Diabolical.


14 posted on 10/21/2024 6:01:55 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: Z28.310

Adam Smith - the father of globlism and USA’s economic decline. May he rot in hell.


15 posted on 10/21/2024 6:04:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: econjack

Social Security was created because in the early 1930s stock values and bank loans declined radically in value.

To induce old folks that needed only a small amount of money to live on to retire, younger folks were taxed to provide this money and create the job openings younger unemployed people desperately needed in the Great Depression.


16 posted on 10/21/2024 6:08:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Base load affected facilities...must meet a second phase standard based on 90% capture of CO2" EPA)
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To: Brian Griffin

Communism had some altruistic motives, too.

Maybe people are just too trusting of government.


17 posted on 10/21/2024 6:16:29 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: george76

Rush Limbaugh with his buying mom cat food and gifting a can opener stuff would be having so much fun with Walz and with at least a half dozen comedy songs on the guy.


18 posted on 10/21/2024 6:21:37 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Z28.310

“Sounds like typical leftists today.”

Sounds like Marx may have been gay. That would explain much.


19 posted on 10/21/2024 6:25:04 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: george76
Steve Martin was WAY ahead of his time. 1980 or so if one recalls correctly, although one doubts if he realized he was mocking a real Communist who was probably in high school at the time:

"MY MOTHER!!... Called me on the phone, and asked me for TWENTY DOLLARS, for some FOOD!!!"

Punch line, he allowed her to work it off, moving his weight set from the basement up to the attic.

The best satire must have an element of truth.

20 posted on 10/21/2024 6:25:29 AM PDT by OKSooner ("As I was saying..." - POTUSDJT, 10-6-24, Butler, Pennsylvania)
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