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American Neocons Get Their Iran War as Congress Sleeps
Ron Paul Institute ^ | October 7, 2024 | Ron Paul

Posted on 10/08/2024 7:47:55 PM PDT by Angelino97

Over the weekend, the Commander of the US Central Command (CENTCOM), General Michael Kurilla, arrived in Israel to “coordinate” with the Israeli military and plan a military strike against Iran. Think about that for a moment: one of the highest-ranking officers in the US military is planning a war in a foreign country against another foreign country which will be fueled by American weapons, American intelligence, and American tax dollars.

Did that foreign country – Iran – attack the United States or threaten Americans? No, it did not. What did Iran do to warrant a CENTCOM commander bringing the weight of the US military into play to plan a war – possibly WWIII? It retaliated against Israeli airstrikes including the assignation of a Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, in Tehran.

It was the Israeli missile attack on Tehran – an unprecedented event – that set off this chain of escalation, but few would know if from media coverage. This war fever between Israel and Iran not only has nothing to do with us, but our increasing involvement actually hurts our national interests in the region.

After a deadly and futile three-year proxy war against Russia in Ukraine, the last thing we need is another war in the Middle East, especially against Iran. But make no mistake, war is what we are getting. This Administration has even offered to “compensate” Israel with even more weapons and diplomatic support if they hit targets of the US choosing and avoid others in Iran.

Imagine if China sent military officials to Iran to pay Tehran to make sure some US targets were struck and others avoided. Would we consider it Iran’s war against us, or China’s war against us? Both?

Has Congress declared war on Iran or even authorized the war? No. Has this Administration explained to us why Americans suffering after the catastrophic Hurricane Helene are on their own because we need to spend billions on a war that is none of our business? No. The neocons have wanted this war for decades and for them it’s always America last.

This war will make us less free, less safe, and much poorer. There will be no benefits at all, only downside.

Will the Biden/Harris Administration greenlight Israel taking out Iran’s oil production and other energy facilities? That would mean the average American already suffering under high inflation and an economic downturn would be paying orders of magnitude higher for not just gasoline, but everything. Consider the cost of shipping and trucking and every aspect of our lives that depends on world energy prices. It would be an economic calamity for Americans for the benefit of a foreign country. This is what they call patriotism?

We are sleepwalking into a catastrophic war, lulled into compliance by non-stop media propaganda. More billions will be drained from our economy and many more innocent lives will be lost in this madness. Almost a quarter of a century later we still have not learned the lessons of 9/11. When we go abroad wreaking havoc and destruction on foreign populations who have not harmed us we create enemies who will seek revenge. We harm ourselves. And we risk blowback. The time to oppose this impending war is NOW!


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Iran; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; iranwar; kgb; ronlovesmullahs; ronpaulrevolution
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1 posted on 10/08/2024 7:47:55 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

He is correct in raising concerns. This pending war is a double act, linked to the Ukraine confrontation. There are all sorts of forces at play.


2 posted on 10/08/2024 7:54:54 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Angelino97

..Nevertheless, he persisted.
Ron Paul recently celebrated his 89th Birthday, Aug. 20, 1935. He still has not run out of things to complain about.


3 posted on 10/08/2024 8:02:21 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Angelino97

Iran never paid for the 444 days, or killing hundreds of Americans over the years, in Lebanon in 1983 and in Iraq. Yes, their minions killed our people, but Iran is ultimately responsible. That said, it is tragic what little Bush and Obama did to the Middle East. It almost seems as if they wanted a stronger Iran. Given we don’t do wars to win anymore, we should avoid it if possible.


4 posted on 10/08/2024 8:07:57 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: lee martell

because there are ever more things to complain about.


5 posted on 10/08/2024 8:08:51 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: Angelino97

Starting a war with Iran, at the exact moment Biden let in 20 million unknown illegal aliens is insane.
Persians are far smarter than Arabs and a war with hem would hit at home fast with some very bad terror attacks.

Reason number 53 on why the open Biden/Harris open border was destructive to America.


6 posted on 10/08/2024 8:09:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Angelino97
Did that foreign country – Iran – attack the United States or threaten Americans? No, it did not.

False.

Iran has declared the United States "the Great Satan" for more than 40 years. It has attacked Americans in the gulf through its proxies, killed many Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, and declares every year its desire to destroy America.

The United States has never recognized the legitimacy of the Iranian regime.

Iran a larger version of the Barbary Coast pirates.

The Barbary Coast pirates declared it was their religious right and duty to attack and enslave Americans, because they were not Muslim. Iran does the same.

7 posted on 10/08/2024 8:10:10 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: lee martell
He still has not run out of things to complain about.

Ron Paul is older than Biden, yet Paul's mind is sharper than that of men half his age.

8 posted on 10/08/2024 8:25:16 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: PghBaldy

45th anniversary of America Humiliated coming up 27 days—on Election Eve.


9 posted on 10/08/2024 8:25:41 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Angelino97

I assume Ron Paul was against Trump ordering the killing of Qassem Soleimani, who was responsible for deaths of US soldiers in Iraq. Paul might respond that we shouldn’t have been in Iraq, which would imply that killing our soldiers was okay.


10 posted on 10/08/2024 8:26:36 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: marktwain

So let’s deal with them like Jefferson did with the pirates:

Send in the Marines!


11 posted on 10/08/2024 8:27:13 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Angelino97

General Michael Kurilla met with IDF on 9/8 and “presented with the IDF’s operational plans for Lebanon.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-centcom-chief-meets-idf-generals-presented-with-plans-for-lebanon-operation/

and was again in Israel 10/5 “to meet with Israeli defense and military officials, amid preparations in the IDF for a response to Iran’s ballistic missile attack.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/centcom-chief-lands-in-israel-as-idf-readies-response-to-iranian-missile-attack/

[tin hat on]

My $$: NOTHING happens until after 11/5,

and:

If harris wins, IDF is greenlighted on option B, a relatively minor tactical retaliation while its proxies are literally destroyed;

if Trump wins, IDF is greenlighted on option A and we awake to a much different world sometime between 11/6 and what was supposed to occur 1/21/2025.

Everybody seems to forget that Iran doesn’t need to detonate a nuke because they are partnered with NK.

Also seem to forget that iran and zero are buddy-buddy, and that there is a likelihood that all of this - 10/7, Lebanon, Iran strikes, IDF retaliation, etc. - is all according to plan.

I think harris scared the elites this week into realizing that DJT might actually pull it off.

Unfortunately, Paul is all blather: Nothing will stop this snowball once it’s set loose.

The big problem is with “etc.”...

[tin hat off]


12 posted on 10/08/2024 8:32:38 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Angelino97

Exactly.


13 posted on 10/08/2024 8:33:18 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Clarity:

“Everybody seems to forget that Iran doesn’t need to detonate a TEST nuke because they are partnered with NK.”

Footnote: We can only hope that Mossad’s operations in iran were much more successful than alluded to in public releases.

The whole thing this month smells like a setup, just like a tabletop exercise by design...

[tin hat off]


14 posted on 10/08/2024 8:36:41 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869
Everybody seems to forget that Iran doesn’t need to detonate a nuke because they are partnered with NK.

Tin foil hat nonsense.

Kim doesn't take orders from Iran. And Kim isn't going to make any sacrifices (e.g., war with Israel or the U.S.) for Iran's benefit.

The only foreign nation that Kim heeds is China. Because he has to.

Also seem to forget that iran and zero are buddy-buddy

More tin foil hat nonsense.

Obama is retired. Obama isn't controlling Biden. Obama isn't colluding with any "buddy buddy" foreign leaders. Obama isn't calling the shots anywhere.

Leftists suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

And some conservatives suffer from Obama Derangement Syndrome.

15 posted on 10/08/2024 8:49:58 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: BlackVeil; lee martell; PghBaldy; DesertRhino; marktwain; Angelino97; logi_cal869

It looks like the invasion of 5 Middle Eastern countries, plus two countries in Africa, is going slower than what Gen. Wesley Clark said he was told was going to occur (video below) but appears to nonetheless continue unabated (Biden sent American troops into Somalis a few weeks after his election) regardless of Democrat or Republican administrations - except when it comes to Trump.

So the ones pushing for this possess a considerable measure of power over administrations, thus exist outside the political spectrum, yet still exert tremendous influence over them.

No doubt lobbyists play a role as well.

So 10 days after 9/11... Was a list hastily drawn up?


General Wesley Clark “Seven Countries in Five Years” [2007]

“Gen. Wesley Clark. Retired 4-star US Army general. Supreme Allied Commander of NATO during the Kosovo War. Here general Wesley Clark describes how he was told on 20th Sept. 2001 that the administration had decided to attack Iraq followed by Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.”

https://youtu.be/Eo6u9DpASp8?feature=shared


16 posted on 10/08/2024 8:55:19 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Angelino97

Iran doesn’t want ear with Israel. They need to use thier proxies.


17 posted on 10/08/2024 9:03:15 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: BlackVeil; lee martell; PghBaldy; DesertRhino; marktwain; Angelino97; logi_cal869

One more quick thing...

Bush: Iraq War.

Obama: sent troops into Syria, made never proven claims that Gaddafi was going to kill 10k of his own people, got the US and NATO involved in bombing Libya.

And now with the Biden/Harris administration coming to an end, war with Lebanon (also on the list of the seven) looms.


18 posted on 10/08/2024 9:05:20 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Another fine ness from the Party of Mules.


19 posted on 10/08/2024 9:07:55 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell
Neocons inhabit both parties.

Reagan was the first administration filled with Neocons. Since then, they've fully controlled every administration's foreign policy, except for Trump.

And even Trump caved in on occasion.

20 posted on 10/08/2024 9:11:50 PM PDT by Angelino97
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