Posted on 09/16/2024 10:01:24 PM PDT by Angelino97
The Libertarian Party of New Hampshire issued a formal statement on Monday addressing a since-deleted comment made over the weekend, which suggested that the “murder” of Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris would be considered heroic.
On Sunday morning, the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire reportedly posted on X, “Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.”
The post quickly gained attention both within and beyond New Hampshire and has since been covered by state, national, and international media. It also drew immediate criticism from Chris Ager, chair of the New Hampshire Republican Party, as well as from the Libertarian Party’s presidential ticket of Chase Oliver and Mike ter Maat, both of whom condemned the statement and denounced political violence in general.
“I 100% condemn the statement from LPNH regarding Kamala Harris. It is abhorrent and should never have been posted,” Oliver said on social media. “As Libertarians, we condemn the use of force, whether committed by governments, individuals, or other political entities. We are dedicated to the principle of non-aggression and to peaceful solutions to conflict. This is also something we pledge as part of attaining party membership. LPNH’s statement should rightfully be condemned by all people.”
The Libertarian Party of New Hampshire ultimately decided to delete the post, stating that it did so to comply with X’s terms of service. “We deleted a tweet because we don’t want to break the terms of this website we agreed to. It’s a shame that even on a ‘free speech’ website that libertarians cannot speak freely. Libertarians are truly the most oppressed minority,” the party remarked.
In its Monday statement, the party clarified that its members do not advocate for the assassination of a “tyrannical President,” acknowledging that such actions are illegal. Instead, it explained that the original post was intended to reflect how some libertarians might react to perceived authoritarian leadership. The party drew a parallel to reactions in left-leaning circles following assassination attempts on former President Donald Trump.
The party further argued that the concept of “political violence” is incoherent from a libertarian perspective, asserting that politicians do not possess special rights. Citing examples such as the Pine Tree Riot, the American Revolution, and the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, the party contended that celebrating historical acts of violence while rejecting contemporary self-defense is “logically inconsistent.”
Describing itself as “the vanguard of the Free State movement, willing to do what must be done,” the party also expressed a desire for progressives, socialists, and Democrats to feel uncomfortable living in New Hampshire. “While we won’t be initiating violence against them, it’s good when authoritarians feel unsafe or uncomfortable. Our posts are frequently explicitly intended to advance this cause.” the party added.
The statement concluded with a call for more supporters to relocate to New Hampshire, emphasizing that the party’s actions reflect the state’s culture and principles.
But for God's sake don't make her a frickin' martyr.
>> But for God’s sake don’t make her a frickin’ martyr.
It’s okay to make Trump a frickin’ martyr though, right? Agree?
WTF. Are you drinking? Calling for violence against a candidate for national office is almost certainly against the rules here, which you should know. We don’t need or want martyrs, period.
>> WTF. Are you drinking?
Maybe.
>> Calling for violence against a candidate for national office is almost certainly against the rules here, which you should know.
Please show me where I called for violence against a candidate.
>> We don’t need or want martyrs, period.
I broadly agree with you. But... What if it comes down to open warfare to protect our republic? Does killing enemies qualify as “making martyrs”? Think Black Robed Regiment rallying to the cause in the Revolutionary War. Were they right or wrong?
Glad you like it. I've worked in tech professionally since 1975, and still at it, but that's work. So yeah, my FRiend, we definitely have that in common -- work is one thing, but at home, it's pretty minimalist.
Libertarians are a stubborn bunch that like democrat/communist rule.
Arizona with (11) electoral votes in 2020 decided by 10,457 votes.
Libertarian candidate 51,465 votes
Green Party 1,557 votes
Georgia (16) decided by 11,279
LP 62,229
GP 1,013
Wisconsin (10) decided by 20,682
LP 38,491
GP 1,089
Now these 37 EV wouldn’t have won the election for Trump.
The EV count would’ve been 269-269 and the House would’ve decided the election.
As a side note. Pennsylvania (20) EV decided by 80,555 votes
LP 79,380
GP 1,082
Not that there's anything wrong with that. :-)
>> Calling for violence against a candidate for national office is almost certainly against the rules here, which you should know.
> Please show me where I called for violence against a candidate.
Well, you applauded the suggestion of murdering Harris. Last time I looked, murder was considered violence. Maybe that's changed, I lost my scorecard.
>> We don’t need or want martyrs, period.
> I broadly agree with you. But... What if it comes down to open warfare to protect our republic? Does killing enemies qualify as “making martyrs”? Think Black Robed Regiment rallying to the cause in the Revolutionary War. Were they right or wrong?
Well, that's an interesting line. Like so many of the post-WWII military actions that weren't formally called "wars", the current socio-political conflict going on between Left and Right is not yet called a "war" in a formal sense. It's not "hot" (yet) in an organized way, but I personally consider the sniper attacks against Trump to be examples of the growing guerrilla warfare which will characterize the next decade or two as America cycles around the drain.
What really concerns me is that although there are hundreds of millions of firearms in personal possession in America, damn few of them would be brought to bear against the government, should that become necessary. Even so, we're more likely to be enslaved slowly and incrementally, not all at once.
I’m pushing 70 and still working in tech. Still learning... Python. Linux (I realize you’re way up that curve). It amazes me that I’m still in demand. I have more work than I do motivation to do it. That’s yet another sign of the times.
I have tractors. ‘80’s vintage are the oldest. ‘06 is the newest. They have no electronics. They barely have ELECTRICS. Enough battery and a working starter motor and they’re good to go.
I am blessed to have meaningful “high tech” work, yet pure joy for me is working GOD’s good earth with those old tractors.
I have long enjoyed your posts and your perspective. And I have learned from you. Life long learning is one secret to longevity, I believe.
May GOD bless you richly!
That’s a dumb thing to post, unless your goal is 6 instantly make yourself 6 target for Dem anger and thirst for revenge.
The Dems don’t believe in suffering in silence, the way most conservatives seem to .
I have tractors”
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None have hand-cranks?
;)
>> Well, you applauded the suggestion of murdering Harris. Last time I looked, murder was considered violence. Maybe that’s changed, I lost my scorecard.
I won’t quibble, although I could... I repent from that.
>> I personally consider the sniper attacks against Trump to be examples of the growing guerrilla warfare which will characterize the next decade or two as America cycles around the drain.
I don’t give in to America cycling down the drain. We have been through worse. I speak healing into our future, although we may be destined to go through a period of fiery refinement first.
>> What really concerns me is that although there are hundreds of millions of firearms in personal possession in America, damn few of them would be brought to bear against the government, should that become necessary. Even so, we’re more likely to be enslaved slowly and incrementally, not all at once.
An open question. The same question arose during our revolutionary war period... only about 20% (IIRC) took the side of the colonists at first. Are we of the same discernment and mettle? I don’t know. Now, as then, I believe it has much to do with the mettle of the American PULPIT.
FRegards, and Blessings, dayglored!
>> None have hand-cranks? ;)
NO, thank goodness! Those things’ll break your arm!
(Although if push REALLY comes to shove, I may wish they did. :-) )
72 here, and still enjoying it. I will admit I have to write more things down these days, especially if I'm gonna need some bit of info 6 months from now.
> Still learning... Python.
You're ahead of me there, I have yet to tackle learning it. My company uses a lot of it for Engineering work, but in IT I stick mainly to ANSI C and Bash/sh; I learned those in the 80's and thank God they're still relevant.
Thank you for the kind words about the stuff I post, glad that it's been helpful and maybe entertaining. I enjoy your posts as well. Life long learning is indeed worthy and valuable.
God Bless you also, FRiend, and enjoy the rest of your evening. It's 2am for me so I'm shutting down and headed for dreamland. Cheers!
Fake post on X, made by a communist election worker, IMHO...
I think his point is that “here” means the US, and, apparently, it is PERFECTLY FINE to call for the killing of Presidential Candidate, as long as there’s an “R” after his name.
After all, how many people calling (both directly and indirectly) for Trump to be assassinate have been punished, or even called out by leaders in Congress, from EITHER party?
As I’ve said before, she ain’t worth killin’.
Why would anyone want to make a martyr out of her? She’s her own worst enemy.
Try criminals in court and let the law decide punishment. I wouldn’t consider becoming a vigilante myself.
for God’s sake don’t make her a frickin’ martyr
Bears repeating Imagine the damage the Left could do with that “weapon”.
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