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Posted on 09/13/2024 6:05:04 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
"The return of Crimea to Ukraine is a requirement of international law."
Erdoğan said in his video address that Turkey has always been opposed to Russia's annexation of Crimea. He decried the persecution of Crimea's ethnic Tatars since 2014.
Erdoğan added: "Our sincere wish is for the war to end with a fair and lasting peace based on Ukraine's territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence."
In October 2020, the Turkish leader said during a joint press briefing with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that his country would never recognize the annexation of Crimea.
"We have and always will support Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity, including over Crimea," he said. "Turkey sees Ukraine as a key country for ensuring stability, security, peace and prosperity in our region."
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Expect to see more rats jumping from the sinking Russian ship in the next while.
Russia really doesn’t have a choice in this - Crimea may be emotionally important to Putin but it is strategically indefensible. Trying to keep it will bleed Russia dry.
What he really means....
“Russia Must Return Crimea to Turkey”
It will just be a lot easier for them to take it from Ukraine, than from Russia when the time comes.
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I’ll take “Things That Will Never Happen” for $1000, Alex.
Good luck with that BRICS application, Sultan.
Recep Erdoğan - the Sultan of Smack.
That whacky guy!
Whether Erdogan is right or not is not the point. Erdogan never says anything unless there is some Turkish interest in it. Is he really trying to be an “ally” of Ukraine? No.
The BRICS application was likely a ruse to get the West to cave; and his comment makes me think he got whatever he wanted.
He also says he is joining BRICS
It wouldn’t surprise me if Pooty-Poot’s response to Sultan Erdogan was something along the lines of: “Absolutely. Just as soon as Turkey returns Constantinople and Smyrna to Greece.”
“Erdoğan added: “Our sincere wish is for the war to end with a fair and lasting peace based on Ukraine’s territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence.”
I have a slightly different view.
Crimea is pretty self-contained (except it is short of fresh water).
I would be for Crimea to decide in an internationally-supervised election, to decide its fate (Russia or Ukraine), with those in the minority having the right to leave Crimea and relocate to their favored country. (The matter of water rights might be resolved prior to the vote should Crimea go with Russia.)
Same thing for the breakaway republics.
Then, if the breakaway republics go with Russia, the areas conquered by Russia in 2022 and not subsequently taken by Ukraine could have their own plebiscites. (But not if the breakaway republics go with Ukraine. We don’t want to have a checker board map.)
The reasons are both historical and pragmatic.
Historically, Crimea was a semi-autonomous oblast even when attached, for administration, to Ukraine SSR. Ditto, the Donbas region. It was transferred from Russia SSR to Ukraine SSR by Stalin.
The pragmatic reason is this: these places voted heavily for the Russophile candidate in Ukrainian elections. This was the purpose of attaching these places to Ukraine SSR in the first place (to increase Russian influence on Ukraine).
Getting rid of these places, or at least getting rid of their Russophile residents, shifts Ukraine from a small majority of ethnic Ukrainians to a large majority of ethnic Ukrainians, and ensure Ukraine’s western orientation. I call this, addition by subtraction.
Anyone who knows even a little about geo-political issues no damn well that Russia will not give up the Crimea without a bloody war. How much does Biden pay a scumbag such as yourself?
Keep dreaming.
Won’t matter, BRICS is a scam.
Nah Nobody cares about BRICS
Erdogan must be a “Zeeper”, as described by our troll friends.
See, Erdogan’s a “Zeeper”. When will the depredations of the Zeepers end?
We’re not allowed to post personal insults here. Cheering for Putin has nothing to do with conservatism.
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