Posted on 09/05/2024 1:32:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Although the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party secured a first-place finish in the Saxony elections on Sunday, the party is still launching an investigation into an alleged computer error that cost them a seat in parliament and is also calling for an end to mail-in votes, citing security concerns and shady practices.
The first issue is the alleged software glitch that resulted in the AfD and the Christian Democrats (CDU) both losing a seat, while the Greens and Social Democrats (SPD) both gained one seat. The party says that it is launching an investigation into this.
“We want to know exactly what went wrong,” said the AfD’s state and parliamentary group leader Jörg Urban in a statement. He is demanding an exact error analysis. “If there are any irregularities, we will take legal action.”
Notably, the loss of one seat resulted in the AfD losing its blocking majority, which would have allowed the party, for example, to block the appointment of certain judges in the state.
🇩🇪 NEW: Alleged software error in Germany means the AfD and CDU both lose one seat in Saxony.
That seat was important for the AfD, as it provided the party with a "blocking minority" during crucial votes that require a two-thirds majority. pic.twitter.com/kqmCw3nLdR— Remix News & Views (@RMXnews) September 2, 2024
The error initially gave the AfD and CDU an incorrect number of seats. After a review, “the state election management corrected the allocation of seats,” according to the German news outlet Leipziger Volkzeitung.
Urban said that nobody is being accused of manipulating the vote, but, “in this case, it is about the AfD’s political options in the Saxon state parliament. Any doubt about the final election result must therefore be ruled out,” he said.
Regardless of why the error came about, Saxony’s election commission suffered a serious black eye, casting doubt on the election results during an already polarized election.
🇩🇪 NEW: "Uncontrolled immigration" fueled the AfD's "shock" victory in the east.
In fact, immigration is now the TOP issue for Germans, according to political analysts. pic.twitter.com/JBunVsP7Yl — Remix News & Views (@RMXnews) September 3, 2024
Following the results in Thuringia and Saxony, AfD co-leader, Tino Chrupalla, is calling for an end to mail-in ballots. He discussed his concerns about this form of voting during a conference with top AfD officials.
“It is also the task of the opposition to always doubt what a government is doing or what happened in an election. That is also a legitimate right and that is a good thing. And I just really want to point out, and we will also question this, for example, the entire security for the legal storage of ballot boxes, some of which are not stored in a legally secure manner, where in some cases only one person or two have access to these ballot boxes,” he said.
🇩🇪 JUST IN: "I would ban postal voting."
Germany's AfD party is calling for an end to mass mail-in ballots for elections.
Party co-leader @Tino_Chrupalla points out suspicious activity in the elections in Saxony and Thuringia in this new @RMXnews video. pic.twitter.com/tKydzaqaVj — Remix News & Views (@RMXnews) September 4, 2024
He went on to say that postal voting has been a concern in other elections and that these issues keep coming up. However, he also pointed to a problem plaguing other countries like the United States, which instituted mass mail-in ballots in the wake of the Covid-19 crisis, which involves activists entering retirement homes and potentially manipulating vulnerable elderly voters.
In the case of Germany, Chrupalla stated, “We have also seen this in old and other election campaigns, such as the current campaigning in retirement and nursing homes, especially when the CDU and SPD campaign in these old people’s homes, which are run by Diakonie or Caritas, or go in and out there, and the Afd does not even get access to present their programs to the elderly. These are also things of influence that are not democratic in my opinion.”
Nortably, both Diakonie and Caritas are run by the Protestant and Catholic churches, both of which have come out against the AfD, including expelling members of the party from the Church and calling for Germans to vote against them.
Chrupalla is calling for an end to postal voting, saying: “Personally, I would ban postal voting again. It has only been introduced as an exception or initiated in the Federal Republic of Germany. It is not the rule, it should not become the rule and it is not regulated by law in such a way that it is made the rule.”
Garland is preparing the “you can’t question election results” indictments as we speak.
Bottom line with computerized voting machines...
if they can be tampered with, or hacked, or programmed with deliberate biases, or prone to ‘errors’...
they should be banned from the elections processes.
It would make sense that the WEF, globalist marxists and DC empire-builders would extend voter fraud “best practices” out to their satraps elsewhere.
In that infamous video from Atlanta on election night 2020 (the one where the "water pipe break" sent everyone home) that is exactly what the CCTV camera caught those two women doing.
The former Republic of California is mailing out ballots to every-single-registered-voter in the state. This is how the communists will retain control.
Its the vote-faucet strategy. You first establish an "unlimited pool" of available votes from dirty/bloated voter rolls, unlimited mail in ballots, you only need the "pipe" them to the necessary end point on Election Day
That pipe is leftist NGOs and community-organizer groups (often government funded) mass ballot harvesting, and lax ballot adjudication.
They've improved on the old marxist game of 99% electoral victories - you only need to have 50.1%, and that's much more plausible.
Several elections later...
I pinged you menes because I value your opinion. Please expound if you would. Specifically, would it matter to you if you could "see" the ballots,? Ty
alleged computer error
Did the Germans hire one of those former Google, Twitter, Facebook, etc programmers that constantly made errors while employed by those companies? Remember all those people in Twitter jail, shadow banned, ejected from the platforms, etc. all because of the incompetent programmers that they employed.
It may depend on the State. Here, the ballots have a computer-readable serial number, and it should not be possible to count the same ballot twice.
But who knows if the counting software actually checks the serial number of the ballot.
There is also a different serial number on the ballot envelope. That number is read when the envelope is received, and results in an e-mail message to the person that was registered for the ballot, if they provided one at registration.
I am at 100% confirmation that my drop box ballot was received in every election. Was it counted? I have no way to know.
The problem is that I live in a county which has more "registered voters" than people of age to be eligible voters according to the census bureau.
I wonder how many of those imaginary people "vote" and for whom they "vote".
I bet the Democrat party knows.
Thank you very much, Ty 😀
Yes, normally it is mandatory in elections to come to the polling station in person.
You will need to bring your ID, as well as the „voting letter“ from your respective voting office (you will get this by snail mail about three weeks before the election). In the polling station, your identity and you voting letter will be inspected. Once this has been done, you can discard the voting letter, or the people at the polling station do it, and you will be handed your ballot and an empty envelope (with the word „ballot“ on it and the denomination and date of the election).
Then you go into the booth, so nobody can see you, you tick your candidate, place the ballot in the envelope, seal it and cast it into the ballot box.
The supervisors will say thanks and have a nice day, and you go home 🙂
For voting by mail, you can fill out the application on the other side of the voting letter, sign it - to prove that you are the correct adresssee - and send it back to the polling station. A few days later, your ballot will arrive in the mail. You tick it and send it back. It’s what elderly or housebound voters often do.
Yes, and in homes for the elderly, I could see the staff, or leftists within the staff, tampering with the votes 🙁 That’s a real possibility…🙁
I think AfD are only trying to make a stink here and that`s just destestable. What the article doesn`t make clear is that the unfortunately (and wrongly) named “computer glitch” didn`t have any influence on the vote count.
When the counting is done there has to be a method to calculate the number of seats each party gets on the basis of the number of votes. In Saxony this used to be the D`Hondt method. In 2022 the law was changed (AdD voted for it too) to Sainte-Laguë.
The “computer glitch” was that orginally the seats were calculated using the old method. Everybody with a calclator can check for themselves that the new seat allocation is correct. AfD know that of course but they don`t care and still try to insinuate they were robbed.
Their shooting against the mail-in ballots falls in the same category. In Germany you are notified about every upcoming election by the town or city where you are a registered resident. Without this notification you can`t vote in person or mail-in so there`s very little room for manipulation. Plus in Germany there are no voting machines. We have paper ballots which are counted by hand and the counting is public, as in everbody who wants to can watch it. That`s probably why this Chrupalla guy really can`t find anything to complain about the mail-in process itself. What he says about not getting access to nursing homes would be true for in-person voting as well.
BTTT.
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