New York Times runs an op-ed calling on the public to go without air conditioning

American Thinker ^ | 09/02/2024 | Monica Showalter

[simpson96]

What is it about the New York Times op-ed page and every crackpot idea under the sun.

Somehow, they always find each other.

So now we have their latest: kill your air conditioner to save the planet

The Times found some guy in Salina, Kansas, who praises going without and says he does it himself:

"Whenever people ask me how my wife and I have endured 25 Kansas summers almost entirely without air-conditioning, I like to say we do it because air-conditioning makes it too hot outside. We’re not ascetics, Luddites or misers; we just want to keep living comfortably, indoors and out.

It’s not just that air-conditioning is making our summers even hotter. (On a sweltering night in a city like Houston, the hot air that A.C. units blast out over the streets can raise outdoor temperatures up to three or four degrees.) It’s also that air-conditioning has altered the way most Americans experience heat.

Our bodies have grown so accustomed to climate-controlled indoor spaces, set at a chilly 69 degrees, that anything else can feel unbearable. And the greenhouse gases created by the roughly 90 percent of American households that own A.C. units mean that running them even in balmy temperatures is making the climate crisis worse."

Is he expecting some calamity that will leave us without air conditioning and so unadapted to that that we wouldn't be able to take it?

That's what it sounds like, what with greenie mandates from Democrats that would ensure that prices of air conditioning will soar so high there will be no air-conditioning for anyone except party elites.

[Gene Eric]

It’s an Op-Ed

[PROCON]

When exactly was the date we started paying attention to people with low double-digit IQ's?

And why do we care what they have to say?

[MTBobcat]

There is zero chance these prairie people have ever used the word “Luddites” in their lives.

[napscoordinator]

I would never have mine at 69 degrees. I’d freeze and my wife would die. That’s completely ridiculous to even have this idiot think everyone keeps it that low. We keep our at 77 day and night in Florida. I definitely don’t feel deprived at all. It’s perfect in fact.

[Allegra]

Dear New York Times,

Piss off.

Love,

Texas

[Texan4Life]

I live in Texas. We’ll be keeping our AC, thank you.

[Texan4Life]

Let then go without heating first.

[SaveFerris]

There it is

[Eleutheria5]

NY Times: GFYS. I’m turning mine lower.

[bobcat62]

I’d rather go without the New York Times.
How much energy can be saved by shutting down the Times?

[Mouton]

If you had a guy looking like that living next door, make certain the blinds are closed in your kids bedrooms. Ideas like that are an insight to a faulty brain.

FWIW we live in fl. Out AC is set at 78 in the summer as we do not have a money print press here.

[minnesota_bound]

some guy in Salina, Kansas and the NY Times are lying.

Turn off the a/c in the NY Times office building.
Lets see how long they last.

[minnesota_bound]

My place is 78 to 80 degrees and the humidity is in the 40’s during our hot 90’s to 100’s days. So far 2 months of that with a few more weeks before the temps drop to the 70’s and 80’s thanks to the cool air because of the Fall season.

I start to feel the change if it goes above 80.
It is the humidity that is the killer.

Originally from Minnesota and I remember how miserable the humidity was and is. Everything sticks to you like gnats and mosquitos and you have to add windshield wipers to your glasses to clear them of the water draining down.

The next 6 days here in the San Fernando valley near Los Angeles there will be temps in the 100’s including 107 and 110 predictions.
https://www.weatherbug.com/weather-forecast/10-day-weather/chatsworth-ca-91311

I once had my a/c in the car fail and I had to turn around after less then 10 miles and head back to my place. I had the a/c fail in the home once and was miserable for a few days before it was fixed.
With the heat you just do not want to do anything but think about how cool it would be to have a/c.

[GenXPolymath]

“You have to be mighty rich to set your thermostat on 69 when it’s 110 outside in Texas.”

Or smart enough to have solar panels that make so much power in August you export energy even when your A.C.is set for 67F the only room above 70 are the empty extra bed rooms all the living areas are set to 70 and the Mitsubishi split unit is always set to 67 or below in the master suite which includes the private master entertainment room. The master bath is heated to 82 before bathing nothing worse than getting out of a shower into cold air.

We get 230 days of sun in these parts of Texas that’s up from 220 the new climate average from NOAA was just released this year. Can confirm it’s been a great year for solar so far even in January we exported power to the grid more than was used overnights. Exporting at 50 cents or more per kWh while buying off peak at night for as little as 3 cebts. The grid operator is happy to take the power in peak summer heat vs having to supply another 50 amp load. My panels help the grid at peak times in two ways. First my large home is not stressing the grid by drawing 50 amps for AC loads and two by adding power in vs taking it out it lowers the grid load plus also lowering the long distance transmission load since the excess power I add to the local grid flows to the closest energy sink usually my neighbors that means the substation and the distribution lines are passing less amps because my amps are flowing to the energy draw first it’s win win win for the grid, Oncor and ERCOT. Local solar in a sunny place is the answer to peak demands and as battery tech improves off grid becomes cheaper and cheaper. I have 60kWh worth of power banks they work out to 18 cents per kwh over their lifetime in legalized cost of storage right now and the longer they last the lower than number gets. These are on loan from a associates solar company I’m white paper testing them to destruction. So far they are holding up well to much higher depth of discharge and cycles and than a normal sized home would do to them but that’s the point wreakem and see what the limits are. I can at the flip of a breaker go 100% off grid and that to a prepper like myself is priceless. Dotgov can never shut off the sun, my Tesla just laughs at dotgov threats to end gasoline too as the panels above it fill it in 8 hours or less from empty and will do that 230 days per year not th at anyone could conceivably drive 335 miles a day 230 days per year. In reality that Tesla gets charged a few kWh a day what it uses to go the 30 ish miles to Frisco or Addison and back to smoke cigars or eat steaks. It’s only 22 ish kWh to Fort Worth and back a 125 mile round trip in theory the 10kw of panels above it can make that in two hours and a few min out of the 12+ hours of daylight we get in the summer here. The shortest day in the year is still 10 hours of daylight at this latitude. And half of that is 45 degrees or more above the horizon where panels make full or nearly full output. My other system the 15kw is on trackers it makes full power the whole day as they track the sun across the sky. The second system is one axis pivot twice per year they get adjusted to seasonal axis. Either way those tw/o systems more than power the home, shop, and Tesla with the excess being sold to ERCOT.

[GenXPolymath]

Anyone who has been to NYC in the summer has experienced the urban heat island effect in spades...The subways are not air conditioned the trains are the stations note. Those stations are 110+ even at night as the thermal mass holds the heat in. I have seen people pass out from heat eating for subway trains in NYC summers it’s brutal and these clowns want to end A.C.

Just use hydrocarbon refrigerant and solar panels if you want to “go green” both work, I’m basking in 67 degrees 100% solar powered so the greens can shove off. I have two deep freezers with R600 in them they just quietly hum away in the garage while keeping my venison, and other game frozen solid or Sam’s Club bulk stuff. There is only a few grams worth of propane in each and they work great. I used to have a K5 blazer that uses R12 when that became a no no and impossible to find I put in a butane propane mix plus POE oil that old AC unit would frost the vents never once had an issue with hydrocarbon refrigerants. The new stuff is just as flammable or more R1234yf is super flammable and when it burns it releases florine gas done be around that when it does. I would rather have R290 or R600 in my car vs R1234yf any day of the week.

[Bullish]

You first you damn dirty apes!

[USAF1985]

Florida checking in:
That’s a big NO. They can have my AC when they pry my cold, dead fingers from the thermostat.

[USAF1985]

“What is needed, absolutely, is an America without New York City.”

You may have left a few off the list (in no particular order):
Washington DC
Boston
Newark (et al)
Philadelphia
Baltimore
Miami
Orlando
Atlanta
Raleigh
Memphis
Chicago
Springfield
Minneapolis-St Paul
Detroit
New Orleans
Austin
Houston
San Antonio
Dallas
Los Angeles
Phoenix
San Francisco
Seattle
Portland (both coasts)
San Diego
Albuquerque
Denver
Any liberal Arts college town...

[Responsibility2nd]

Houston
San Antonio

I just found out where Texas A/G Ken Paxton will be suing Harris and Bexar Counties if they don't delete the fraudulent voters from their roles.

I lived in San Antonio over 50 years. It's a shame how wrong, how left they went.

[USAF1985]

As a native Texan and having lived in San Antonio for a couple of years myself, I feel your pain. That used to be a fantastic place to live and work. Stay strong...