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Germany freezes Ukraine military aid as budget crisis hits at home
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | August 17th, 2024 | Jorg Luyken

Posted on 08/17/2024 10:18:45 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: Biblebelter

Good point. I was thrown off FB years ago for commenting on a story from Germany about a man and son at a public pool. Seems the man caught a rag head raping his son, so he did the European thing and ran for the police! When he returned another rag head was raping his son. My comment was along the lines of “ who in their right mind would bring children around muzzies?”


21 posted on 08/17/2024 11:12:28 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Angelino97

I don’t disagree. But the underlying point is the same. Germany is no longer interested in funding this stupid military campaign because they have no reason to be at odds with Russia. They never did, in fact.


22 posted on 08/17/2024 11:13:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: Biblebelter
Germany has effectively been occupied by the U.S. and Great Britain for almost 80 years.

Just in case anyone here didn’t know what the real purpose of NATO has been all along …

23 posted on 08/17/2024 11:15:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: Sacajaweau

Nord Stream is completely nonfunctional and it has apparently been full of salt water for too long to be used again. See link.

Pre Ukraine, Germany was desperate to make Russia part of the European scene and thus worked to make Nord Stream happen as a way to integrate the Russian economy into the West. It turned into a massive failure and a HUGE embarrassment to Germany. Since then, Germany has built facilities to handle liquefied natural gas from the US and other sources. These facilities will handle all of Germany’s current and future needs. (As Trump warned them, they needed to do, or Russia would use the gas as a political and economic lever to force Germany’s foreign policies to Russia’s will.)

Germany’s help for Ukraine is coming out of its current budget, whereas the majority of America’s help is coming from pre-disposal storage of weapons we won’t use again.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/who-blew-up-the-nord-stream-pipeline-suspects-and-theories.html


24 posted on 08/17/2024 11:20:26 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Alberta's Child

To keep Germany down, Russia out and the United States in.


25 posted on 08/17/2024 11:22:52 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: Gen.Blather
It turned into a massive failure and a HUGE embarrassment to Germany.

It only became a “failure” when the U.S. destroyed the pipeline. It would still be a successful venture if that had not happened.

Since then, Germany has built facilities to handle liquefied natural gas from the US and other sources. These facilities will handle all of Germany’s current and future needs. (As Trump warned them, they needed to do, or Russia would use the gas as a political and economic lever to force Germany’s foreign policies to Russia’s will.)

Either you don’t see the irony and the hypocrisy of this, or you’re just here peddling corporate propaganda. So Germany had to let the U.S. use gas as a political and economic lever to force Germany’s policies to America’s will … because otherwise Russia would use the gas as a political and economic lever to force Germany’s foreign policies to Russia’s will? LOL.

26 posted on 08/17/2024 11:31:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: Mariner

L. my A. off. 😂🤣😂

You can only steal, extort, pay off your friends and bribe TPTB until you bankrupt the silly tools that believed you. Then it comes crashing down.

Corrupt transhumanist globohomos in Yurp are in a high roller poker game that they can’t afford, and they have sabotaged their once formidable production capabilities to worship Gaia and Baal and Molech.

They’re well and truly screwed. We better learn their lesson, repent and seek GOD again, and elect President Trump and (R) legislators or we’ll be in the handbasket to hell along with Yurp (and Canada and Oz/NZ)!


27 posted on 08/17/2024 11:35:02 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Russians weren’t going to invade Europe. It certainly wasn’t about Ukrainian freedom because they were actually more free than they will ever be no matter who runs the place.

That was all made up to justify this travesty because the western nations decided to use Ukraine to weaken Russia for their own plans. Perhaps a coup or color revolution where they would insert a person of their own persuasion who will join the global world order.


28 posted on 08/17/2024 11:35:39 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Mariner

No worries, we can always toss another $100B over!


29 posted on 08/17/2024 11:40:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rrrod

Biden Puffers feeling pain.


30 posted on 08/17/2024 11:45:10 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

Wearing your Putin panties?


31 posted on 08/17/2024 12:29:33 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

The world is going to change when Germany changes sides.


32 posted on 08/17/2024 12:35:34 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Angelino97

“Not without the CIA’s or MI6’s help. “

That’s a given.


33 posted on 08/17/2024 12:36:51 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim Noble; mikey_hates_everything

“The world is going to change when Germany changes sides.”

Energy is everything.

They will build another pipeline with German money.

And Ukraine is SOL.

Everything we know about market forces says this will be so.


34 posted on 08/17/2024 12:44:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Gen.Blather

“ Germany’s help for Ukraine is coming out of its current budget, whereas the majority of America’s help is coming from pre-disposal storage of weapons we won’t use again.”
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Yes, of course we believe you. America’s aid to Ukraine is ALL FREE to America’s taxpayers. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT $200 BILLION INCREASE IN AMERICAN NATIONAL DEBT to finance all the FREE STUFF.


35 posted on 08/17/2024 12:52:26 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAXkansas )
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To: Mariner

Maybe Germany and Russia have made an agreement to divide up Europe.


36 posted on 08/17/2024 12:58:36 PM PDT by McGruff (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: House Atreides

Pretty much everything sent to Ukraine by the US was scheduled to be decommissioned with the exception of ATACMS and Patriot. (There may be some less noticeable smaller systems that are from current inventory.) But the Bradley’s, for example, were the Operation Desert Storm model which were all scheduled for destruction. The Marine Corp decommissioned all of their Abram’s tanks so those are available once the armor is swapped. The missiles have an expiration date as does the ammo. It has to be either fired, disposed of, or sent back to the factory to be rebuilt. All of those options have an associated cost. Thus, sending them to Ukraine is a savings to the taxpayer. Also, the dollar amount quoted is either the original cost or the replacement cost, depending on various factors.


37 posted on 08/17/2024 1:08:47 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Biblebelter

Germany is pursuing their REAL national interests.


38 posted on 08/17/2024 1:49:19 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Gen.Blather

“ has to be either fired, disposed of, or sent back to the factory to be rebuilt. All of those options have an associated cost. Thus, sending them to Ukraine is a savings to the taxpayer. Also, the dollar amount quoted is either the original cost or the replacement cost, depending on various factors.”
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Sure, we believe EVERYTHING THE ZEEPERS AND THE GLOBALISTS SAY. I noticed a few weeks ago that your Biden/Harris Administration buddies “found” more billions of American taxpayer money to give Zelensky by revaluing earlier aid to “zero” cost. IT’S MAGIC!


39 posted on 08/17/2024 1:57:23 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAXkansas )
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To: Gen.Blather

You are portraying the aid to Ukraine as mostly “free” through accounting tricks, not common sense. The bottom line is a lot of valuable weaponry has been lost, used up, or traded on the black market.


40 posted on 08/17/2024 2:48:11 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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