Posted on 08/12/2024 4:59:57 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
Ukraine said on Monday its biggest cross-border assault of the war had captured 1,000 square kilometres (386 square miles) of Russia's Kursk region and that Russian President Vladimir Putin would have to be forced into making peace.
With Russia still struggling to repel the surprise assault a week after it began, Ukraine's top commander Oleksandr Syrskyi briefed President Volodymyr Zelenskiy by video link and said the advance into Russian territory was ongoing.
"We continue to conduct an offensive operation in the Kursk region. Currently, we control about 1,000 square kilometres of the territory of the Russian Federation," he said in a video published on Zelenskiy's Telegram account.
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Syrskyi spoke a few hours after Alexei Smirnov, Russia's acting regional governor of Kursk, estimated that Kyiv's forces had taken control of 28 settlements in an incursion that was about 12 km deep and 40 km wide.
Though less than half Syrkyi's estimate of the Ukrainian gains, Smirnov's remarks were a striking public admission of a major Russian setback more than 29 months since it launched a full-scale invasion of its smaller neighbour.
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ZEEPER FOLLIES PINGLIST!(((PING!)))
” UKRAINE TOUTS HUGE GAINS AS IT TAKES BACK
WAR TO RUSSIA “
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Of course they did.
If they can keep it.
Long enuf to better negotiate less of their catastrophic Loss of a generation of Ukrainian men and boys, and long fled families who can not return for years.
I find it odd that Ukraine didn’t do this much much earlier. What’s up with that? I mean you have all this ass kicking ability and you drag it out three or four years then suddenly turn on the afterburners. This is gonna get more interesting in the next few weeks.
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your propaganda is ludicrous but funny.
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Nu York lines collapsing.Capture immenent.
Turrets has been entered and is going fast
daily update from mil summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQYYX2er-u0
Over on General/Chat in the New York Times time machine threads General Hood is now hard at work destroying the Army of Tennessee with hare-brained reckless attacks. I said earlier this year replacing Zaluzhny with Syrsky was just like replacing Joe Johnston with John B. Hood. Here’s your proof.
Not sure Ukraine has the logistic tail to hold all of this, but Russia is out of gas too. They wasted manpower and the best of their military equipment on frontal assaults that gained little at great expense. I think the Ukrainians would like to encircle Kursk. That is probably a bridge too far but cutting the M2/38K intersection at Selikhovy Dvory and bringing Kursk into artillery range probably is doable and would be a huge psychological blow to Russia.
Then again who knows. There is not much in the way of the Ukrainians now that they have penetrated the major defense lines. The conscript forces are no match and pulling troops of the line in Donetsk could result in near total collapse. The Russian army is geared to grinding advance not maneuver.
The Wagner army was smaller than what the Ukrainians have on hand in Kursk and there was nothing stopping Wagner from taking Moscow. That probably opened Syrsky’s eyes to a world of possibilities. Everything Russia has is on the front lines. The only thing left is FSB and conscripts and neither was intended or equiped to repel a real army. Wagner stopped on their own initiative they were not stopped by anything in Russia. I am sure the question in their minds was what the hell will we do with Moscow if we take it not can we take it. So they stopped and that was the end of Prighozin.
“That probably opened Syrsky’s eyes to a world of possibilities.”
Sure, it’s possible. It’s possible I could hit the Powerball, but we live in the real world.
“Wagner stopped on their own initiative they were not stopped by anything in Russia.:
Or they knew they could get to Moscow but they weren’t going to get out alive. The Russian army is bigger than it was last year, and the Ukraines don’t have the strength to hold a salient that large. I doubt they’ll even reach Kursk city. If I was the Russians, I’d let them get even farther and then cut them off at the shoulders of the salient.
The Wagner army was smaller than what the Ukrainians have on hand in Kursk and there was nothing stopping Wagner from taking Moscow.
You can't be serious. There was no popular uprising in support of Wagner. They knew Wagner was coming. They let Wagner group know what was waiting for them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group_rebellion
Lukashenko later recalled:I said, 'Zhenya [the diminutive for Yevgeniy], no one will give you either Shoigu or Gerasimov, especially in this situation, you know Putin as well as I do. Secondly, he will not only not meet with you. He will not talk to you on the phone due to this situation'. Prigozhin was silent at first, but then burst out: 'But we want justice! They want to strangle us! We'll go to Moscow!'. I said, 'Halfway there you'll just be crushed like a bug'.
— Alexandr Lukashenko, speech during the presentation of general's epaulettes at the Palace of Independence in Minsk, Press Service of the President of the Republic of Belarus.
They could not just turn arond and go back — in that direction the Chechen army was waiting.
Ukraine controls LESS than a square of 20 miles X 20 miles.
Great PR stunt, however.
Unless someone you loved got killed, maimed, permanently disabled, or bankrupted.
You’re addressing the wrong poster. I was quoting from the original post. Go back and read mine.
The Battle of the Bulge was a great success, until it wasn’t.
But Operation Cobra and Operation Yoav were great successes. You also ever hear of Jackson’s Flank March at Chancellorsville?
Hilarious meme!
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