Posted on 07/23/2024 4:07:21 AM PDT by hardspunned
The US Navy surface fleet continues to shrink. And every surface hull commissioned after the Arleigh Burke class in 1991 has been a failure. The Chinese Navy exceeds the US Navy in total warships deployed. What makes this even more astonishing is that the Chinese maintain a regional naval power with optional blue water projection capabilities (mind you, untested) while the US maintains the fiction of a global capability. The current U.S. fleet is smaller, with more than 280 vessels. The Secretary of the Navy expects that strength to reach 300 in the early 2030s which is a pipe dream unsupported by the facts on the ground..
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But their DEI training is fully up to date. And what is really important?
Meanwhile China continues to expand its navy and Russia is rapidly modernizing theirs (and expanding too).
Guns or butter?
Guns and butter?
Historically one must choose.
Today we simply print more money.
But you can only do that so long. I think we have reached the point where we can no longer do that.
The $200 Billion or so pi$$ed away on Uke corruption would have made a huge difference in bringing the USN back.
“Has anyone else noticed how rusty and decrepit looking our ships are nowadays?”
I’m willing to be that you haven’t seen a US warship with your own eyes anywhere but on television.
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I was a Plankowner (original crewmember) of a Tico-class cruiser, back in 1987. I'll be attending the de-commissioning ceremony of that ship later this year.
No, the upkeep of ships in today's Navy astounds me--we'd never allow our ship to look so rusty, back when I was in the Navy. We took pride in our ship for starters, but the commands always made sure that their ships were spotless.
I'm told it's about priorities and morale of the crew...they are not nearly as responsible for the ship's upkeep today. Much of the work--the painting, chipping, etc., is outsourced. It begs the question, what DO the sailors onboard the ships do?
The Burkes will fill in for a little while--they're even more advanced with their software and weapons' systems. Eventually though, we'll need a replacement for them, too.
We need to get the Federal budget back to where it is 10% or less of the GDP.
At that level economic growth would more than support a three ocean navy.
“Ticonderoga Leaves the Fleet: The US Surface Navy Continues to Shrink”
Take that Putin (and She)!!!! We don’t need no ships in our Navy because we are America and therefore WE ARE INVINCIBLE!!!
The Navy’s shortsightedness on TICO-class cruisers is criminal. Yes, they need work and some updates. All ships that old do. But the loss of capabilities is the issue. We are years, if ever, from a comparable replacement. Same thing when we lost the Virginia class nuc cruisers in the 90s.
As is China going in to Taiwan will be over in hours before anyone wakes Joe up.
The Burkes are capable. But not like the TICOs. I feel the same about this as losing the VA-class cruisers in the 90s. They were floating weapons platforms. And we scrapped them with less than 20 years in the water. SOCAR refueled then decommissioned about 4 years later.
the US has started building 60 to 100 new Constellation class frigates. This article ignores that.
Ships don’t just grow on trees. The first keel was just laid down this year. Probably 3 years to delivery. I doubt we have that long and that’s one ship.
Who cares about rust.
Importantly are there bathrooms for how each person identifies by gender?
I see you trying to recycle that FORD class no utinals garbage.
Urinal. Damn phone.
Sadly it’s probably too late to bring them back. That should have been planned 10 years ago. If they are sitting pier side you would be shocked at how fast the sea gets its revenge.
A boatswain’s chair over the side is out. Paint punts are also not allowed.
Environmental friendly paints tend to rust and turning pink. Our ships look like Schiff next to spotless JMSDF ships that use lead based paint and good practices. The excuse of they don’t deploy that much doesn’t cut it.
Yep. I saw shipboard tanks with original 60s paint schemes still pass inspection in the early 2000s. All that lead and other stuff we don’t use anymore.
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