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Secret Service Director Gives Bizarre Reason Why An Agent Wasn't On The Roof Where Gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks Opened Fire On Trump As She Rejects Calls To Resign
DAILY MAIL ^ | 07/16/24 | Geoff Earl

Posted on 07/16/2024 8:04:02 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Embattled Secret Service head Kimberly Cheatle has revealed the fateful reason why her agency failed to position an agent on top of the building that a gunman used to carry out an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

Cheatle, who is already facing calls to resign over what some lawmakers are calling a massive security failure, said Secret Service officials planning security for Trump's rally in Butler, Pennsylvania considered the warehouse about 150 yards away from where Trump spoke to be a risky position for stationing an agent.

'That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,' she told ABC News in an interview Tuesday.

'And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside.'

What transpired instead was a security nightmare: Thomas Matthew Crooks was able to scale the building and secure his own position, while law enforcement struggled to locate him even amid pressing warnings from members of the Trump crowd. But there wasn't sufficient time to act on the tips, she explalined.

'The shooter was actually identified as a potential person of suspicion,' Cheatle said. 'Unfortunately, with the rapid succession of how things unfolded, by the time that individual was eventually located, they were on the rooftop and were able to fire off at the former president.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: cheatle; director; excuses; j13; kimberlycheatle; kimcheatle; noslope; outsidetheperimeter; roof; secretservice; slanted; slopedroof; thomasmatthewcrooks
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“””Yes, the stories coming out are truly “Soviet style lying”. The message is, “we are in charge, and you must accept out blatant lies and you can do nothing about it”.”””


Biden, Biden’s border czar Harris, and Biden’s DHS Sec. Mayorkas have intentionally created a ‘look the other way’ culture at the border and now Americans are surprised to find the SS had also adopted the ‘look the other way’ attitude.


241 posted on 07/16/2024 11:09:55 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Leep
Re: "Steep slope."

Do you have a link to a photo that distinctly shows a steep slope?

Thanks.

Please remember that Trump was elevated about 10 feet above ground level, and the land directly in front of Trump was a flat area where they hold auctions.

I have seen three aerial photos. None of them indicate a steep slope between the shooter and Trump.

242 posted on 07/16/2024 11:12:01 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Enlightened1

“the decision was made to secure the building, from inside.”

Who made the decision? SS? Locals? By locals then approved by SS?

“while law enforcement struggled to locate [Crooks] even amid pressing warnings from members of the Trump crowd. But there wasn’t sufficient time to act on the tips...”

If the rally attendees could see Crooks with the naked eye from 50 feet or less, LEO’s could have run to where they were and shot the sniper with a pistola.


243 posted on 07/16/2024 11:24:38 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Enlightened1

“the decision was made to secure the building, from inside.”

Who made the decision? SS? Locals? By locals then approved by SS?

“while law enforcement struggled to locate [Crooks] even amid pressing warnings from members of the Trump crowd. But there wasn’t sufficient time to act on the tips...”

If the rally attendees could see Crooks with the naked eye from 50 feet or so, LEO’s could have run to where they were and shot the sniper with a pistola.


244 posted on 07/16/2024 11:27:21 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Enlightened1
Cheatle, you’re doin’ a heckuva job!
245 posted on 07/16/2024 11:28:26 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Enlightened1
Why LIE about it?


246 posted on 07/16/2024 12:04:01 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: Sicon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

The longest snipper kill shot was over 2 miles away.


247 posted on 07/16/2024 12:06:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: zeestephen

I didn’t claim there was only that Crooks didn’t have any trouble on whatever roof it was


248 posted on 07/16/2024 12:47:37 PM PDT by Leep (Leftardism strikes 1 in )
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To: tflabo

Hannity just said the Secret Service was given intel about an Iranian assassination plan to kill President Trump. They received the information a week before this assassination attempt.


249 posted on 07/16/2024 12:48:37 PM PDT by gitmo
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To: Enlightened1

I HAVE SOME EASY NEWS FOR THIS IGNORANT BITCH.

IT RAINS IN ALOT OF THE USA & MOST BUILDINGS HAVE A ‘PITCHED’
ROOF.

THAT HAS TO BE THE LAMEST EXCUSE I HAVE EVER HEARD.


250 posted on 07/16/2024 1:02:00 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The roof on my current house is about the same slope.

We get ALOT of wind.

I climb the ladder & anchor shingles that are misbehaving.

I found that GORILLA GLUE does a great job.

I am 84 & female. AND I DO NOT LIKE HEIGHTS....


251 posted on 07/16/2024 1:06:43 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: butterdezillion
I don't trust the investigation. They say nothing was found on his phone. He was looking at his phone just prior to the shooting. What was he looking at?

I will assume the shooting was purposeful on the part of the security detail at the instruction of superiors, until proven otherwise. I am not saying any particular member of the detail necessarily knew anything about the intent to assassinate. They just worked with Orders. For instance, the incline was too significant to post a security detail on the roof, my ass.

I do have a theory, very rough theory, in the works as to how the kid got conditioned to commit this act and carry it forward. No spell or grammar checking as I am just throwing this out there.

It begins with the household. Both his parents are social workers. This of course means they each have about a 90% chance of being liberals. So the conditioning to hate Trump started early. See his first campaign contribution, I believe at the age of 17, to ActBlue or something like that which is aligned with the more radical side of the left.
Further, the parents were clinicians/therapists. Given the kids obvious life as someone estranged from classmates, friends, and the community, he was likely on some type of anti depressants perhaps prescribed by his parents.

So we have a kid, with no friends, who looks to his parents probably for everything in terms of his identity and sense of self worth, being conditioned to hate Trump.

We also have a kid who is psychologically unstable because of bullying and more importantly his use of anti depressants and perhaps, I will venture, adderral.

We know the kid liked gaming.
We know the kid had a very minimal online profile.
We know the kid liked shooting though he could not make the team which must have really burnt him up.
The gaming he did do, I will venture, was likely halo, call of duty, and the sort.

Given the above, I believe one can safely assume that either his parents or someone in the gaming community more than conditioned him to commit this act. They prompted him to do so.

Now coordination of his inclination to commit this act with the ideal conditions created by the Security detail, or its higher ups, necessarily has to run through either his parents or some online gaming platform/community.

You chose. I think online forum of some sort. Perhaps via his head set with a buddy he gamed with. Or the parents. Weird question. Adopted? Anyway,

I say it was coordinated because, I am one, working with the presumption this all was intentional on the part of the deep state if you will, and, two, I am working with common sense probabilities. Now this is not accurate as a statistical matter and draws upon common sense, but entertain my thought process:

The chance that this young man, or a similarly situated individual, had, not just an inclination, but an out right commitment to carry through with this act. Yes there are crazies but then their are those few of the crazies that actually act upon same. I give it a 1 in say 1000 chance that a person of this sort was, absent grooming, available on July 13th in the geographic area.

Next, the probability that this person also would know, without given information by others, randomly discover this unguarded rooftop which was this close to Trump is say 1 in a 1000. Recall, he purchased a ladder prior to the shooting. Obviously he thought he would be getting atop something. “I'll just grab a ladder and 50 rounds of ammo the morning of the shooting, because, you never know when you just might have to scale a building”.

Finally, the chances that the security detail would overlook a perfect sniper spot this close to Trump on this particular building is 1 in 10,000.00. I feel comfortable about this approximation. A 7th grader running security would have noticed, “that, right there, is where a shooter will likely post up to try to assassinate Trump. So cover that spot”.

My description of working probabilities and the context within which they exist, is of course, crude at best. But you get the idea.

The chances via the rough calculation detailed above is about 1/1000 x 1/1000 x 1/10,000. Without a calculator this puts the odds of this just being a lone wolf who did this is 1 in 10 billion. You don't have to agree, even I don't agree, with my own probability assessments. But when you work those probabilities as a matter of common sense, the lone wolf idea seems extremely unlikely.

Even 1/10 1/10 1/100 gets you to a 1 in 10000 chance this was just all a random dude who luckily ran across this random building which for whatever random reason was not guarded. And he happened to bring a ladder and the random building was about a stones throw from Trump.

You can pick apart the analysis. Holes are everywhere in it! But, without writing a treatise, I think I have made my point.

252 posted on 07/16/2024 1:11:42 PM PDT by Nogara
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To: Nogara

You are on the right track my FRiend.

The Deep State recruits potential agent provocateurs and assassins and keeps them on ice for when they are needed.


253 posted on 07/16/2024 1:14:29 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg

Yes. They do indeed!


254 posted on 07/16/2024 1:23:05 PM PDT by Nogara
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To: Enlightened1

The slope on the roof the snipers were on is much steeper the the slope the shooter was on.


255 posted on 07/16/2024 1:24:47 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: Nogara

Yes, what you’re saying makes sense.

I just posted about his account on Discord and how easily the Deep State could discover his vulnerability to mind control and exploit it via Mk Ultra.

What I noticed is that right away there were classmates who were saying he was bullied every day. Then yesterday I looked and they had classmates saying he WASN’T bullied, and the principal of the school saying he WASN’T bullied. The story changed after people noticed that his psychological profile fits that of many (usually young) mass shooters who heard voices in their heads, which is an MK Ultra phenomenon that uses schizophrenia for “plausible deniability”.

There is a Raytheon whistleblower who says they have technology that he has personally observed, that allows a manipulator to plant thoughts in a person’s mind, heard in their own voice. Most people, if they heard their own voice telling them to do some heinous crime, would talk themselves out of it. But there are certain people who can be conditioned to accept such instructions. In my imagination I think of it being the same kinds of rationalizations as the media use on the general public but perhaps tailored to the individual person’s situation. So yeah, when Biden or others say Trump is dangerous like Hitler, the natural conclusion is that it would be good to kill him and nip his tyranny in the bud. Most people won’t go that far, but if the voices are coming from inside a mentally-unstable person - and perhaps with the aid of drugs as well - assassins can be created, all without leaving a footprint of radicalization.


256 posted on 07/16/2024 1:41:20 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I didn’t even know he had a discord account. But, of course he does. Every young gamer does.

Where did you post about his discord account? I’d be very interested to see what you found.


257 posted on 07/16/2024 1:59:27 PM PDT by Nogara
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To: Nogara

This is the article about his Discord account:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/discord-reveals-details-would-be-trump-assassins-account-platform


258 posted on 07/16/2024 2:05:01 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks, I thought I had seen everything.


259 posted on 07/16/2024 2:13:08 PM PDT by Nogara
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To: Nogara

Wait I just read the article. Discord states about Crooks account:
“It was rarely utilized, has not been used in months, and we have found no evidence that it was used to plan this incident, promote violence, or discuss his political views,” the spokesperson said. “Discord strongly condemns violence of any kind, including political violence, and we will continue to coordinate closely with law enforcement.”

Is Discord, like, the FBI and they can determine what is or is not relevant to the investigation of this incident.

They then state:
“In a statement to Fox News Digital, a Discord spokesperson said an account that appears to be linked to Thomas Matthew Crooks was identified and removed in accordance with the company’s “off-platform behavior policy.”

The kid was dead. You don’t need to ban his account or remove it. They buried it.

Anyway, thanks for the lead.


260 posted on 07/16/2024 2:23:40 PM PDT by Nogara
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