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'A fundamental security failure': How did a gunman open fire on a Trump rally?
NBC News ^ | July 14, 2024 | Jon Schuppe, Janelle Griffith, Rich Schapiro and Dasha Burns

Posted on 07/14/2024 6:26:30 AM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: GreenHornet
Leave it to NBC to make such an idiotic statement. Who do they think shot them?

The guy on the grassy knoll, no doubt.

141 posted on 07/14/2024 8:09:15 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: ArcadeQuarters

It was one roof where obviously a shooter could hit Trump!


142 posted on 07/14/2024 8:09:26 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I noticed that too. Proll’y just an angry hornet scared by the bullets whizzing by.


143 posted on 07/14/2024 8:10:17 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Trump ‘said’ he was shot.

Yeah, but we have to take that with a grain of salt, because you know how he lies.

144 posted on 07/14/2024 8:10:40 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: moviefan8

While on the topic of questions not asked:

Following the shooting and about the time of Bidens presser, Fox said the DNC just cancelled a $50 million ad buy the Biden campaign was set to release. I wonder what those ads were going to say. I speculate they were harsh Biden rhetoric that would not look good in the aftermath of the assassination attempt. This is why I doubt the attempt was orchestrated. Encouraged through hate rhetoric, yes, but controlled or set up? I don’t see the motivation. Trumps survival elevated him in the campaign and is not what Biden wanted to have to add to his campaign hurtles. This is karma for dems and all their hatred. They have set the stage for lawlessness and chaos at all levels of governing since COVID. They turned loose forces like antifa and BLM. But they can’t control the monsters they have allowed to fester. It is a dangerous time. Be prepared. JMHO.


145 posted on 07/14/2024 8:10:56 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Paul R.

I agree with you. It is probably the most reasonable / explainable one of all on this thread. Too bad others don’t see this.

Free Republic needs a like button or something.


146 posted on 07/14/2024 8:11:05 AM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Boardwalk

Someone needs to ask what the actual rules of engagement were. I suspect they won’t want to disclose that for security reasons, but it’s critical to know if the SS snipers hands were tied prior to first shot.


147 posted on 07/14/2024 8:13:36 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: DoodleBob

There is no excuse for them. the one place a shooter could take up a position was that roof top. no other buildings around. none.


148 posted on 07/14/2024 8:15:15 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yes, they saw the shooter on the roof and waited for him to shoot before they shot. It’s not supposed to work that way.


149 posted on 07/14/2024 8:16:25 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

But according to witnesses, they didn’t think security could see the shooter because he was behind the roof line until the last second. Clearly there were no security personnel on the roof, or nearby roofs, not even local LEO’s, and right there is that level of incompetency you find so hard to accept. POSSIBLY conspiracy could set up that lack of security on the roof, but then you have to have several people involved, and the chances of hiding the plan are very poor.

The SS snipers were “covering” the roofline as they should, but, even then, unless their rifles just happen to be pointed EXACTLY where the shooter pops up, they have to ascertain the figure they see isn’t, say, a local LEO, and acquire the target. You can even see the closer sniper look up (the scope, of necessity, has a narrow field of view), reposition the rifle so the shooter is in the scope, then the sniper has to get the crosshairs on the shooter, and fire. That’s plenty of time for the shooter to get those 3 rushed shots off.


150 posted on 07/14/2024 8:16:27 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: DoodleBob

The ONLY failure they see is that their assassination plot didn’t kill Trump.

They let him on the roof and let him take his shots before the killed him to bury their tracks.


151 posted on 07/14/2024 8:18:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: DoodleBob

The red haired Trump supporter tried to get the attention of cops and SS. Those who ignored him need to be fired with prejudice. No pensions.


152 posted on 07/14/2024 8:20:11 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Boardwalk

We don’t know what the officer saw. He has to make a split second decision that factors in many things. He has one shot.

What should have happened was having officers on the other roof. This was the big mistake yesterday. Not enough security.


153 posted on 07/14/2024 8:20:41 AM PDT by moviefan8
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To: moviefan8

Who says it was a mistake?


154 posted on 07/14/2024 8:22:05 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: DoodleBob
WAS THOMAS CROOKS THE J6 PIPE BOMBER?

I've heard reports there were pipe bombs found last night in the shooter's van !!!!!

155 posted on 07/14/2024 8:22:33 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Paul R.

Very good post.

Yes, the shooter was rushed because he heard all the people yelling about him being on the roof with a gun. Thank God he was rushed but RIP to the man who was killed.


156 posted on 07/14/2024 8:23:33 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: DoodleBob

SService is responsible for vetting all areas. But, outside the venue it is local coppers to maintain vigilance.
Kinda like Ashlie was shot by a local copper.


157 posted on 07/14/2024 8:24:35 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Those SS shooters saw the perp but let him fire on Trump.

Keep in mind that the suicide bomber that killed 13 Service Personnel during Biden's disgraceful "Afghanistan withdrawal" was also in a sniper's sights, but the sniper was not allowed to fire. The same traitors in our government are still calling the shots and they hate Trump worse than they hate their Taliban Bros.

158 posted on 07/14/2024 8:24:44 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (President Trump saved by DIVINE INTERVENTION. GOD CONTINUES TO BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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To: DoodleBob

‘A fundamental security failure’: How did a gunman open fire on a Trump rally?>>>. Correct headline is ‘A fundamental security failure’: How did the SS allow a rooftop 130 yards away from Trumps stage go unsecured? answer. They really wanted Trump to get shot.


159 posted on 07/14/2024 8:25:44 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: jeffc
How did the shooter know which rooftop to go to?

This seems like an important question.

160 posted on 07/14/2024 8:26:01 AM PDT by Plexi
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