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'A fundamental security failure': How did a gunman open fire on a Trump rally?
NBC News ^ | July 14, 2024 | Jon Schuppe, Janelle Griffith, Rich Schapiro and Dasha Burns

Posted on 07/14/2024 6:26:30 AM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: Roadrunner383

If there any drones used for coverage that is absolute proof that the SS was in on it and the personnel shortage will be just an excuse.


121 posted on 07/14/2024 7:50:31 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Have you ever fired a rifle?

A Ruger Mini 14, every three months, for 25 years.

122 posted on 07/14/2024 7:52:57 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of Air Force pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Sir Bangaz Cracka

No, if the witness accounts are correct, the assassin was out of view behind the roofline (peak of roof) until he popped over, went prone, and got off 3 shots - rushed, it appears, and luckily so for Trump, not so luckily for the others hit.

The SS(?) snipers would be correctly targeting that roofline, but it’d take them a few seconds once the assassin appeared to accurately target HIM.

But then the big question is why there was no security on that roof. THAT is inexcusable.


123 posted on 07/14/2024 7:53:05 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: DoodleBob

False flag(s).

POTUS 100% INSULATED.

Expect fireworks.

JUSTICE.

124 posted on 07/14/2024 7:53:37 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: batazoid

I think we have gone beyond fishy into certainty. I have seen too much video to unsee it now. This was a deliberate coordinated hit job. Those SS shooters saw the perp but let him fire on Trump. The level of incompetency it would take to leave an unsecured rooftop that close to the stage is hard to accept. Its just sickening.


125 posted on 07/14/2024 7:54:26 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Bongino said the Biden appointed SS director should resign, but then Biden could appoint somebody worse. Is Cheatle more concerned with “diversity” than competence?


126 posted on 07/14/2024 7:54:57 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Paul R.

For clarity: “pick out 3 who likely don’t know each other, for each roof...”


127 posted on 07/14/2024 7:55:02 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: 9422WMR

I’m sure he was an angel and didn-do-nuffin.


128 posted on 07/14/2024 7:55:31 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: DoodleBob

You take an overhead photo or a diagram of where the podium will be and you place a clear overlay on it with a dot and circles around that dot showing the maximum effective range of common weapons.

Then, you make sure nobody can get a weapon inside those circles.

They basically left one flank unguarded.

If there were police on the ground there, they should have had police on that roof.

I would expect any Sergeant in the Army to know how to prepare for this.

It’s just too obvious.

You decide whether they intentionally left it unguarded.


129 posted on 07/14/2024 7:55:51 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Erik Latranyi
The raid on Mar-a-Lago had more aggressive rules of engagement.

Yup.

130 posted on 07/14/2024 7:55:53 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DoodleBob
He said a high-powered rifle like an AR-15 can hit targets 200 yards away.
The AR-15 isn't a high-powered rifle, and it can hit man-sized targets from 600 yards away, given a competent shooter.
131 posted on 07/14/2024 7:56:24 AM PDT by jdege
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To: blueunicorn6

Good post—there is no way to avoid it—at least some key SS actors (supervisors, team leaders) were in on it.


132 posted on 07/14/2024 7:58:21 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Magnum44

The othe question is if the police officer had a good shot to make. He may not be able to have a good shot at the guy. Everyone assumes thr officer had a good view, aim, and can make a kill immediately. It’s not like the movies. We don’t know what the officer sees.

One. You don’t want to miss and cause a panic.

Two. If the police officer misses, then the assassin just starts firing killing people.


133 posted on 07/14/2024 8:00:04 AM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Sirius Lee

+1


134 posted on 07/14/2024 8:01:08 AM PDT by nfldgirl ( )
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To: Lazamataz

I am just a little ole lady, and even I KNOW ROOFTOPS NEARBY SHOULD BE GUARDED!


135 posted on 07/14/2024 8:03:42 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Climate cultists think we should go back to the goo"d times when people starved)
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To: moviefan8

So wait until you hear shots and then shoot to kill? Was that the order?


136 posted on 07/14/2024 8:04:48 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Uncle Miltie

A Remington Model 8 made in 1906 could have done the same. Semi auto rifles have been around for 118 years.


137 posted on 07/14/2024 8:06:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: DoodleBob

“’A fundamental security failure’: How did a gunman open fire on a Trump rally?”

not a “failure”, but deliberate ... based on all the audio and video evidence there is no way this could have happened the way it did without some kind of assistance from the secret service ... period ...

and believe me, i am not a conspiracy theorist as my posting record here would prove ... it seems like i spend half my time here debunking nonsensical conspiracy theories ... this assassination attempt is not one of those ...


138 posted on 07/14/2024 8:06:19 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: Carl Vehse
It's not yet known whether security gap was a "grave lapse" or part of an intentional plan.

That will never be known to us with any certainty. Life is like that. We receive a mixture of incomplete, sometimes incorrect, and sometimes deliberately falsified information. We must go with what we've got when the bell rings.

With the limited and distorted information that we have, I am going with "part of an intentional plan". It didn't quite work out.

But they will try again. We had best plan to stop them.

139 posted on 07/14/2024 8:06:39 AM PDT by flamberge (Only the dead have seen the end of war (Proverbial))
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To: DoodleBob

> Former Secret Service agent Evy Poumpouras said it is impossible to eliminate every potential threat in a situation like Saturday’s.

It was ONE roof.


140 posted on 07/14/2024 8:07:11 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remove RINOs by voting for them!)
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