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1 posted on 07/10/2024 4:18:18 AM PDT by tlozo
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I have grave doubts that the hospital was the target. Russia has been very cautious about civilian deaths. Flame me....

And then tell me about the very deliberate hit on the Crimean Beach by Ukraine.

2 posted on 07/10/2024 4:25:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Howdy paid troll.

This isn’t even factual according to anyone else.

There’s an inquiry with Norway right now. It was their hardware.


3 posted on 07/10/2024 4:34:32 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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I wonder how many articles you were posting when Bill Clinton ordered NATO jets to target a commuter train in Serbia killing scores of civilians (including children). Or when Bill Clinton ordered a missal strike on an aspirin factory in Sudan.

Where was the gnashing of teeth from the leftwing woke media?

Don’t get on your high horse and lecture how morally superior you and Ukraine are. There has been enough killing of civilians by BOTH sides, including by the Western forces (under the direction of Obama stooge, Victoria Nuland). /spit


9 posted on 07/10/2024 4:51:51 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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Poor quality Photoshop.


13 posted on 07/10/2024 4:59:49 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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14 posted on 07/10/2024 5:02:43 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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And in other news it is reported that starving Russian soldiers are eating poor little kittens alive, not to mention using little puppies for target practice. /s/

I think the article could be propaganda. Most info from either side is just that.


17 posted on 07/10/2024 5:08:45 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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Another Gulf of Tonkin incident, fake deep state propaganda then just like it is now.

In other words I do not believe it


21 posted on 07/10/2024 5:30:50 AM PDT by stockpirate (A group of baboons is referred to as a "Congress" of baboons.)
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24 posted on 07/10/2024 5:53:45 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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A terrorist country, like Russia, will absolutely target civilian hospitals and civilian infrastructure. Children’s hospitals are prime targets, all the more to strike terror on the fathers and mothers who want to protect their kids, and might even want their country to surrender in order to stop the killing. Terrorists don’t care and will do anything and everything to get their way. Putin is a terrorist in the highest degree, and Al-Qaeda and ISIS are amateurs in comparison.


25 posted on 07/10/2024 5:58:46 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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Fabian Hoffmann @FRHoffmann1

Doctoral Research Fellow @NuclearOslo @UniOslo . Defense policy, missile technology, and nuclear strategy. Views are strictly my own. Oslo, Norway

Enhanced resolution video imagery once again and very clearly demonstrating that the missile is a 🇷🇺 Kh-101. Why?

- Highly visible TRDD-50A turbofan engine (rear section)

- Two relatively long wings (mid section)

- blunted nose (top section)

https://x.com/FRHoffmann1/status/1810350033616732653

Here’s a quick analysis of the AIM-120 warhead, as many have been asking about it.

The AIM-120 features a WDU-33/B or WDU-41/B blast-fragmentation warhead, designed to destroy soft-skinned airborne targets such as aircraft, cruise missiles, and long-range drones. The weight of the warhead differs by AIM-120 variant:

- AIM-120A/B/C (up to C-3) (WDU-33/B): 22.7 kg (50 lb)

- AIM-120 C-4/C-5 (WDU-41/B): 18.1 kg (40 lb) -

Not all of the warhead's mass consists of high explosives. In fact, the majority of its weight is made up of fragmentable material.

The amount of actual high explosives is as follows:

- AIM-120A/B/C (up to C-3): 7.66 kg (16.9 lb) of explosives

- AIM-120 C-4/C-5: 8.61 kg (19 lb) of explosives

Why? Because the lethality of this type of warhead relies less on the kinetic energy of the explosion's overpressure shockwave and more on the kinetic energy of the fragments it projects outward.

This warhead is effective in air-to-air combat because the kinetic energy of its fragments dissipates more slowly than that of the overpressure shockwave. As a result, and depending on the size and direction of the fragment cloud, the warhead can remain highly lethal, even in near-miss scenarios.

However, the limited amount of explosives and resulting fragments are absolutely ineffective against large concrete structures.

A warhead with 7.66-8.61 kg of high explosives, optimized for destroying soft-skinned vehicles through fragmentation effects, could not create the damage pattern observed at the hospital.

In contrast, a ~400 kg Kh-101 warhead

https://x.com/FRHoffmann1/status/1810978211498508381?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

35 posted on 07/10/2024 6:34:59 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows )
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Looks more like one of these.


39 posted on 07/10/2024 6:41:11 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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The anti-Ukraine crowd make allegations that suggest paranoia.


46 posted on 07/10/2024 6:54:45 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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I want to see an independent investigation and to see fragments of the missile.

Also, if a Russian missile caused this, why isn’t the hospital completely destroyed? The damage is not from a Russian missile, but a Norwegian interceptor missile.


52 posted on 07/10/2024 7:48:45 AM PDT by Jumper
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This is Hamas' level propaganda.

Virtually everything Ukraine, the Biden regime and NATO put out about this war is a lie.

56 posted on 07/10/2024 9:36:58 AM PDT by Kazan
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