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Why GPS Is Under Attack
NYT ^ | 5 July 24 | Selma Gebrikden

Posted on 07/05/2024 9:21:23 AM PDT by delta7

The Global Positioning System runs the modern world.… But it is under daily attack. This year alone, researchers say, more than 60,000 commercial flights have been hit by bogus GPS signals, which can confuse pilots.… The American GPS network that was once the gold standard is at risk of becoming a relic as Chinese, Russian and European systems modernize.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gps
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The Russians and Chinese have their own GPS. Long ago,one of my “ advanced training” seminars on the US GPS system revealed something more ominous.

All our ATM’s and most all of our financial systems must be “ time stamped” down to milliseconds. Guess where they get their Timestamps? GPS. Just look at one of your ATM receipts, or banking transaction receipt.

Loss of GPS ( if widespread enough) freezes the entire US financial system.

Got cash? It’s coming.

1 posted on 07/05/2024 9:21:23 AM PDT by delta7
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For national defense purposes GPS must be jammed sometimes is the rationale that is unfolding around us.


2 posted on 07/05/2024 9:24:02 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: delta7; dfwgator



3 posted on 07/05/2024 9:25:25 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Well, Biden spent money on important things like paying off student loans for deadbeats and professional 'students'. Sorry citizens the US is 'second rate' under democrat policies.

4 posted on 07/05/2024 9:27:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden can READ a speech IF written for him. Take the teleprompter away and Biden's a babbling idiot.)
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I will add a public service announcement. You probably didn’t know the many crimes occurring at ATM stations….here is how it goes….criminal has a local GPS jammer….you go to ATM, he jams the signal, the station says it is not operating, you try again, criminal sneaks up, grabs your card and forces your pin, he unjams the GPS timestamp, clears out your account….at least up to the ridiculous low limits set on it ( every wonder why your ATM withdrawal limits are so low?)

Yes, our financial system is weak and vulnerable. More than you may think. It will be exploited.


5 posted on 07/05/2024 9:28:12 AM PDT by delta7
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The American GPS network that was once the gold standard is at risk of becoming a relic as Chinese, Russian and European systems modernize.

We have bigger fish to fry, like instituting DEI and investigating White Supremacists.

6 posted on 07/05/2024 9:28:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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The thing I’ve known and understood is GPS is our system and our military can mess with it whenever and however they have the need to do.


7 posted on 07/05/2024 9:30:24 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: delta7

The only existential threat to humanity is climate change - Joe Biden


8 posted on 07/05/2024 9:34:20 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Back in the 1990s, we didn't need no fancy schmancy GPS.

This is what I used to find my way around Los Angeles.


9 posted on 07/05/2024 9:46:23 AM PDT by Angelino97
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All our ATM’s and most all of our financial systems must be “ time stamped” down to milliseconds.

I would be very surprised if there's not some "slop" built into their algorithms. You have to assume that a clock isn't perfectly synchronized, especially if the sync signal is coming e.g., from a radio interface that may not be dependable. Now if it was out for a long period of time, it's completely possible that the clock would drift outside of the slop window, and stuff would stop working.

10 posted on 07/05/2024 9:47:38 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Angelino97

In my almost 20 yr full time CDL trucking career (2001-2021) I hardly ever used gps. I had paper maps and happily used them.


11 posted on 07/05/2024 9:50:57 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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LOL, reminds me of our old Mapsco book for street around the Dallas area. Whenever were drove anywhere on a trip, no matter how well we knew the way, my wife insisted on taking her Rand McNally road atlas with her.


12 posted on 07/05/2024 9:54:54 AM PDT by ken in texas
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The thing I’ve known and understood is GPS is our system and our military can mess with it whenever and however they have the need to do.
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Yes, and no. It is owned by the US Government, many components operated by our Space Force, a joint .Gov and military system.

The take away I mention is loss of GPS can result in huge banking/ financial problems and disruptions, something many never realize- in a mili second.

Do I think our .gov would shut down our banking system, under certain events, yes. It is a marvelous “ tool” to selectively shut down all money transfers.

Another related event- when vegetable head Joe took Russia off of SWIFT, they lost much ability to monitor worldwide money transfers, the SWIFT monitored all to and from transfers.

Now that Russia/ China/ India / Sauds ( and more) have developed their own settlement systems, the U.S. intelligence agencies are very concerned, a huge loss of intelligence.

Why does this brain dead administration keep committing suicide?


13 posted on 07/05/2024 9:57:44 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Angelino97

I still have a 1996 book of maps for the Tucson area, but it’s not a Thomas Guide. I also have a box of old paper maps from just about everywhere I ever lived or worked, and a Rand McNally road atlas that goes on trips with us.

At home, though, I’ll use Google Earth on the computer. Good for finding places (though it does make mistakes sometimes) and for taking a look at the place before we go there.


14 posted on 07/05/2024 10:03:39 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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IIRC GPS was instituted by our DoD (Air Force to be specific) and is meant primarily to aid our military in various ways.The fact that guys like me can use it to navigate from Cleveland to Pittsburgh is incidental. If upgrading is needed for military purposes then by all means do it.If upgrading would help poor slobs like me,or the economy,that's fine too.
15 posted on 07/05/2024 10:04:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Never Trust A Man Whose Uncle Was Eaten By Cannibals)
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Our GPS runs off of atomic clocks. They must have + - nanosecond accuracy. Time is not constant. Greenwich mean time ( at sea level) and say our Colorado atomic clock ( at altitude) are constantly having to be synchronized.

I find it strange our “ science” still has not figured out what Time is, as even our best atomic clocks must be continuously “ synchronized “.


16 posted on 07/05/2024 10:10:11 AM PDT by delta7
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All our ATM’s and most all of our financial systems must be “ time stamped” down to milliseconds. Guess where they get their Timestamps? GPS. Just look at one of your ATM receipts, or banking transaction receipt.

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Network Time Protocol (NTP), your computer uses it
Traceable to NIST.
A piece of open-source software (free) versus a piece of hardware (cheap).


17 posted on 07/05/2024 10:19:06 AM PDT by dagunk
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For those interested:

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/gps-times-atomic-clock-frequencies-increasing-accuracy-of-gps/


18 posted on 07/05/2024 10:23:26 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Campion

Computer clocks were set and maintained inside the machine - at least way back when.

The time stamps came from the machine’s clock - yeah, we pretty much stamped every single transaction down to fractions of a second - speaking from several years of banking experience on big machines.

I don’t know if any of that has changed in recent times with servers - this was back in the mainframe/midrange/minicomputer days.

I’m staring at my radio-wave clock that’s been gaining time ever since it was out of service for about a year while in storage - it’s now running about 57 minutes ahead - I should replace it, LOL - there’s a twin to it around here somewhere - I just don’t know if it acquired the same disease (cheap digital from Walmart)

They were awesome for a long time - double-alarm to force me to get up early for a 12-hour shift


19 posted on 07/05/2024 10:26:19 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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What I’d like more than anything else is to get the built in GPS out of my car


20 posted on 07/05/2024 10:29:00 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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