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We now know how bad the debate was for Biden
Politico ^ | 07/04/2024 01:04 PM EDT | STEVEN SHEPARD

Posted on 07/04/2024 12:38:45 PM PDT by conservative98

The polls are in: President Joe Biden’s debate face-plant has put him in his worst electoral shape of the 2024 election.

More voters now than ever say they have an unfavorable opinion of the president, think he’s too old for the job and want someone else leading the Democratic ticket this fall.

No incumbent president has had an approval rating this low at this stage of the election since George H.W. Bush more than three decades ago — and, other than Biden’s 2024 opponent, former President Donald Trump, no incumbent has trailed this far behind in the horse race polling since Jimmy Carter’s reelection bid 44 years ago.

The latest numbers have added to the pressure on Biden to mount a quick comeback — or drop out of the race before his party officially designates a nominee. A string of rigorous-but-fast-twitch polls show a post-debate slide for Biden — who was already struggling to break out from behind Trump. Three of them, including a New York Times/Siena College survey released Wednesday afternoon, showed Trump with a 6-point lead among likely voters.

Given Republicans’ advantage in the Electoral College, that kind of national margin would likely equate to a decisive Trump victory.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; debate; dementiajoe; georgehwbush; impairedbiden; jimmycarter; poll; polls; presidentialdebate; trump
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1 posted on 07/04/2024 12:38:45 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98
In 2020, 18 of 19 “bellweather” counties didn’t mean anything. Losing states like Ohio and Florida didn’t mean anything.

So forgive me for not being too excited because Biden is in a bigger hole than others in the past.

Vote fraud’s a helluva drug, to paraphrase Rick James.

2 posted on 07/04/2024 12:42:19 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: Sicon

none of the historical benchmarks matter

with the margin of fraud factor


3 posted on 07/04/2024 12:53:53 PM PDT by joshua c
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To: conservative98

President Retard plans to start taking meth on advice from one of the smartest people he knows Humper


4 posted on 07/04/2024 12:54:03 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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To: conservative98

Da HECK with da polls! They could mean anything! Hang in there, Brandon. Just think - free tapioca.


5 posted on 07/04/2024 12:54:52 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: conservative98

Despite the media’s and DNC’s attempt to cover it up, everybody knew (or at least suspected) Biden was in mental decline. All he did at the debate was confirm those suspicions and beliefs. Frankly I’m surprised at the things team Biden did. I wasn’t even born, but know enough about the 1960 Nixon Kennedy debate on TV. Kennedy knew TV and Nixon, who probably was legitimately flu ridden, knew Radio. Kennedy looked slick and Nixon looked sick.

Before Biden even opened his mouth my jaw dropped seeing him on stage. I literally said to my wife “why didn’t they put some blush on his cheeks?” He looked like a corpse. No foundation, no powder, nothing. White as a ghost. He didn’t do well in performance obviously but he looked worse.

I tend to believe the theory that “forces” behind the scenes rigged it. They deliberately let him look bad, scheduled the debate during hours he could not function well, they overwhelmed him for a week of practice, etc. And they scheduled it so early in the year with the idea that he could be replaced. It all adds up but I obviously can’t say if it’s true. But these political power types are devious backstabbers.


6 posted on 07/04/2024 12:57:06 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

Great observation!


7 posted on 07/04/2024 1:00:28 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: monkeyshine

“I tend to believe the theory that “forces” behind the scenes rigged it.”

It could be—I would just like some evidence on how they might have done it.

What you described would probably work—but there was no certainty it would be successful.

Powerful people don’t like leaving these things to chance.


8 posted on 07/04/2024 1:04:09 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: conservative98

Yeah, but remember the fraud that happened last time. If that level of fraud happens this time, the outcome will be no different than 2020.


9 posted on 07/04/2024 1:05:49 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: conservative98

That was when they counted votes. Now they count ballots. Bigly different.


10 posted on 07/04/2024 1:06:41 PM PDT by webheart
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To: Sicon

2018, 2019, Trump was not on the ballot. If you want to rig some counties like in 2020 you can do it. The problem they have right now is they have to steal about 13 states this time. They don’t have the money or the man power or the how do you say it, “motivization?” Biden is too old and is a known screw up right now. He is screwing up America right now for even Democrats. That’s why there is no real motivation or passion to fix the election for Joe. What about Summer of Love and another Covid lockdown warning we got from you doom porn loving people? Wait til the summer of 2024 they said, they are going to burn everything down and lock everybody down again. Did I miss the fires or the new COVID? What happened is they lost interest and nobody gives a crap about Joe Biden anymore. All you got left is a bunch of dumb Hamas supporters and nobody cares about these Nazis. Everybody hates Biden right now, even the deep state and the military and migrant industrial complex because they spent too much money on Ukraine and migrants and they know the jig is up. So if you are listening to doomers that say it is just like 2020 and Trump will lose that’s on you. The problem with Joe Biden is the only one who really wants him to be president is Jill Biden and that’s it.

- paraphrased from the Dilley Show podcast yesterday


11 posted on 07/04/2024 1:14:53 PM PDT by conservative98
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maybe. but judging by the recent article about clyburn’s visit to WI MI & PA...those states are guaranteed to repeat what they did in 2020.


12 posted on 07/04/2024 1:19:14 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: cgbg

No I have no evidence and we probably never will. But we’ve heard the stories that he’s only really functional between 10-4. Some suspect he’s sometimes drugged. And perhaps some inside really know he’s just not mentally capable. If you just game theory it out you can be pretty sure.

Besides, if he performed well despite what we know, and ends up winning, it still benefits the string pullers. Consider it a stress test. If he pulled it off they still keep their power. If he failed, they have time to scramble.


13 posted on 07/04/2024 1:23:37 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Libloather

With young voters thinking Biden is too brain dead and older voters thinkingKamala is too stupid the Democrats are in a mess.


14 posted on 07/04/2024 1:24:31 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: ducttape45

Fraud only works when it’s done in darkness. Biden has been exposed to the light and is falling apart and now everyone on their side is panicking. Also, remember you get nowhere being a it’s going to be stolen again so don’t even have hope doom porn clown. Lose that sh*t attitude.


15 posted on 07/04/2024 1:28:04 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

IMO the real story is the voters hate and despise Donald Trump so much that they are in denial about their mental illness and lie to themselves that they love the socialism of the Dems. They should be 100% agreement that Biden was totally unfit to be President. But a percentage says he is fine to vote for again. Like “23% believe there will be no subfreezing and snowy weather in Minnesota and Michigan this winter.”


16 posted on 07/04/2024 1:29:59 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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Hang in there Biden, I know your a broken down pile of crap like Trump said, but on the bright side you’ll have more time to spend with your drifting son come January when you are back in Delaware having Dr Jill changing you diapers!


17 posted on 07/04/2024 1:33:22 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: conservative98

They still manage to say he’s ahead of Trump.


18 posted on 07/04/2024 1:34:35 PM PDT by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: conservative98

Don’t count your vote before the activist left wing judges do. :)


19 posted on 07/04/2024 1:41:03 PM PDT by Tzimisce ( )
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To: Sicon

Trump ‘lost’ the election in, what, five counties in PA,GA, AZ, MI and WI. It’s important to remember that he lost the nationwide popular vote (yes, I know that means nothing in electing the President) but cheating in five counties might not be enough to drag 10-4 Joe over the EC line this time. So, maybe get a little excited. At least it isn’t bad news.


20 posted on 07/04/2024 1:41:03 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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