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John Dean says Nixon ‘would have survived’ Watergate under immunity ruling
The Hill ^ | 07/01/2024 | MIRANDA NAZZARO

Posted on 07/02/2024 8:33:44 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

John Dean, former White House counsel for the Nixon administration, said he believes former President Nixon “would have survived” the Watergate scandal if the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling issued Monday, which largely shields former presidents from criminal prosecution for actions in office, existed at the time.

Asked what would’ve happened with Nixon if the immunity ruling was in place during the fallout from Watergate, Dean pointed to Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who split from the other conservative justices on a portion of the majority opinion regarding the use of president’s official acts as evidence in criminal prosecution against a former president.

“Well, there’s actually two rulings in this decision. There’s a 6-3 for presumptive immunity, but there’s also a 5-4 on you can’t even have the evidence of official conduct come to play,” Dean said Monday. “This is very…this to me, appears to certainly influence the existing law on presidential conduct [and] what’s available…evidentiary speaking. Amy Coney Barrett said she didn’t think that it should be so restricted as the decision of the court itself was, so I think that Nixon would have survived. I think he would have walked under this ruling.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: dean; immunity; nixon; watergate
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To: plain talk
“John Dean says Nixon ‘would have survived’ Watergate under immunity ruling,”

<> No he would have likely been impeached and removed from office.

Exactly. Dean is lying through his teeth. Congress can (and did and will in the future) use whatever evidence it wants. The Supreme Court's ruling relates only to the judiciary.

21 posted on 07/02/2024 8:50:57 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What’s WRONG with this guy anyhow? If not for him trying to cover up info on his hooker girlfriend, there probably wouldn’t be a Watergate scandal. You’d think he’d be so embarrassed that he’d just STFU and go into hiding. But noooo...


22 posted on 07/02/2024 8:53:09 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Bannon didn't kill himself.)
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To: proxy_user

Nixon did not authorize, nor did he have prior knowledge of, the Watergate break-in. Contrary to popular belief, Nixon was most likely the target of a deep state coup. Woodward was most likely CIA asset.

I highly suggest you question everything you’ve been taught by the media and our educational system about Watergate.


23 posted on 07/02/2024 8:53:15 AM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: All

Nixon was less corrupt than most other presidents after him


24 posted on 07/02/2024 8:55:25 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And he should have survived.


25 posted on 07/02/2024 8:55:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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To: brownsfan

The old lying gasbag Dean and his whore wife are both still alive...


26 posted on 07/02/2024 8:55:51 AM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Hey...Nixon was ahead of his time

“but when the President does it, that means it is not illegal...by definition”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMt8qCl5fPk


27 posted on 07/02/2024 8:55:55 AM PDT by stylin19a (Why do "overlook" and "oversee" mean opposite things?)
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To: escapefromboston
Nixon was less corrupt than most other presidents after him

They keep getting worse.

28 posted on 07/02/2024 8:56:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Nixon should have survived it. Watergate was nothing next to what Obama did with his 'Operation Fast and Furious' crimes, which resulted in 2 dead Border Patrol agents at at least 400 Mexican children killed by the guns he illegally sent to Mexico.
29 posted on 07/02/2024 9:01:29 AM PDT by montag813
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The book Silent Coup credited him as the mastermind behind the break-in, allegedly making the burglars search for a list of book of party girls with Mo’s name in it. Any comment he makes about Nixon is rich and total hypocrisy.


30 posted on 07/02/2024 9:01:37 AM PDT by MHT
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To: ChicagoConservative27

These Watergate guys remind me of those people at a reunion that peaked in high school, usually in sports. That’s the highlight of their life and everything since is compared to it. My 45th reunion is this year and there are still guys talking about that big game in the 1978 or 1979 that was the highlight of their life. It wasn’t getting married, having children or grand children. It was the last basket, last touchdown or the last run they have as their peak. It’s very sad.


31 posted on 07/02/2024 9:03:57 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The deep state would have set him up in another way then.


32 posted on 07/02/2024 9:04:38 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

33 posted on 07/02/2024 9:05:50 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ford pardoned Nixon over Watergate.

“As a result of certain acts or omissions occurring before his resignation from the Office of President, Richard Nixon has become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States.”

“I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974.”

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/speeches/740061.asp


34 posted on 07/02/2024 9:05:57 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: plain talk

No he would have likely been impeached and removed from office.


He resigned when told by Republicans that he would be impeached (which at the time had only happened once) and possibly convicted by the Senate. I don’t think he was worried about criminal charges. Although Ford, knowing the dem’s hatred of Nixon, pardoned him


35 posted on 07/02/2024 9:05:59 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

As he SHOULD have!


36 posted on 07/02/2024 9:08:29 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This snake crawled out from the high grass again?!


37 posted on 07/02/2024 9:08:38 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The immunity is not new. It’s always been there. Nothing was “created” by the Supreme Court.


38 posted on 07/02/2024 9:09:15 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: Jim from C-Town
If that’s the case he should have fought, like Trump fought

No internet in 1984. No Fox News either.

39 posted on 07/02/2024 9:09:41 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“when the President does it, that means that it is not illegal, by definition.”

“Well, what I, at root I had in mind I think was perhaps much better stated by Lincoln during the War between the States. Lincoln said, and I think I can remember the quote almost exactly, he said, “’Actions which otherwise would be unconstitutional, could become lawful if undertaken for the purpose of preserving the Constitution and the Nation.’”

https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/78917/was-nixons-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-is-not-illegal-tech


40 posted on 07/02/2024 9:09:46 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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