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To: Tench_Coxe

The JURY will decide if an act is official or not-official.

This will not help Trump with a DC jury.


5 posted on 07/01/2024 7:52:22 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969
The JURY will decide if an act is official or not-official.

The decision makes it a lot easier for a judge to exercise his or her discretion and dismiss the case before it is even heard. Even DC judges who would love to see Trump prosecuted don't want to get their hands slapped by a higher-court reversal. Probably doesn't make Trump completely immune to such cases but it does make it a whole lot harder for the DA to make a case and for any conviction to survive appeal.

11 posted on 07/01/2024 8:08:17 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Re-elect Donald Trump - AGAIN)
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To: Fido969
This will not help Trump with a DC jury.

It helps Trump with everything. The official-acts-vs-unofficial-acts question will not be resolved until after Trump is well ensconced in the Oval Office, and perhaps after he finishes his term. We have months and months and even years of litigation coming on this. No matter what the DC jury decides, it will be appealed, first to the DC Court of Appeals and then back to the Supremes.

This will take AGES.

13 posted on 07/01/2024 8:12:03 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Fido969

I am not a lawyer, but your comment makes no sense. Juries in criminal cases decide if a person is guilty of a crime, a crime as codified by law. Juries do not decide what is a crime and what is not a crime. The prosecutor is the one who must charge for a codified crime. So the definition of ‘official’ has to come from outside the jury, a criminal code, a judges instructions, etc. The jury cant make it up. This was the problem with the NY case. The judge gave incorrect and illegal jury instructions. JMO.


14 posted on 07/01/2024 8:14:19 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Fido969

“The JURY will decide if an act is official or not-official.“

Wrong. Immunity claims have to resolved before trial. So the trial judge will make his/her determination of what acts are official (requiring the charge to be dismissed) and what are not. The you can expect both Trump and Smith to appeal to the circuit court any decision with which they disagree, and then a subsequent appeal to SCOTUS again. All of this has to occur before they can even begin preparation for an actual trial.


16 posted on 07/01/2024 8:20:30 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I am free at last)
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To: Fido969
This will not help Trump with a DC jury.

The Chutkan case is federal, so If the jury convicted Trump because of a preposterous "not an official act" argument Trump could appeal to SCOTUS. If the verdict comes after the election, Smith would have to pull a mangy rabbit out of his tattered hat to make a difference.

41 posted on 07/01/2024 10:44:48 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Fido969

This decision therefore reveals that Trump absolutely had the “official” right as President to stop the count.


42 posted on 07/01/2024 10:48:14 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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