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War or Peace? Towards a Ukrainian Peace or a Direct NATO-Russian War
Sott ^ | 28 June 25 | Gordon Han

Posted on 06/30/2024 11:21:19 AM PDT by delta7

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To: delta7

Trump clearly wants a peaceful solution. NATO clearly wants to keep crowding Russia until a war breaks out. Look for NATO precipitating something that causes the war. They don’t have much time and Biden is toast. Now is the time - before November. The big losers as usual will be the US taxpayer.


21 posted on 06/30/2024 2:12:06 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: tlozo
Yup, Spain once had a coup, therefore all subsequent free and fair elections to the present day are null and void. Makes sense

Yup, it makes as much sense as Russia returning behind the international borders of 2012…. None.

22 posted on 06/30/2024 2:14:15 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: mac_truck

Presidental elections must precede any peace deal. Ukrainians get to vote on who they want leading the negotiations.
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Good point, as Zelensky is no longer the legitimate President, the Ukrainian people have a problem. I look to St Z disappearing, in one way or another.

Vlad ( and a few other countries) has already stated any “ agreement “ must be signed by a legitimate, elected leader. I think we can safely assume St Z’s days are over.


23 posted on 06/30/2024 2:34:47 PM PDT by delta7
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

If I was Xi, I would be planning on expanding China’s borders to the west.
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There is much talk about China rebuilding what is left of Ukraine post war. A lovely idea.


24 posted on 06/30/2024 2:38:59 PM PDT by delta7
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To: tlozo
Yup, Spain once had a coup, therefore all subsequent free and fair elections to the present day are null and void. Makes sense

How’d the last one go? Oh…i forgot…elections have been canceled indefinitely. Makes sense.
25 posted on 06/30/2024 2:40:55 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: PIF
As soon as Russia returns behind its international borders of 2012 all will be well and peace will rein.

Really? No more color revolutions on their border states? No more encroachment of intergovernmental military alliances on their borders? Kum Ba Ya?! Swords into plowshares?!! Question: what if some of the Visigrad states no longer want to be part of Globohomo? Do they have the freedom to join other economic blocs?
26 posted on 06/30/2024 2:46:52 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Right Brigade

“As soon as Russia returns behind its international borders of 2012 all will be well and peace will rein.”

They’re all blinded by their nationalist pride.


27 posted on 06/30/2024 5:00:02 PM PDT by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: delta7

At least 70% of NATO military hardware is the United States. When Billy Jeff Clinton was bombing Serbia, he wouldn’t let the NATO (US) jets get close to the ground. That said, one US pilot was shot down, but thanks to his training, he survived until US forces found him. It is a great story and book: Return With Honor by Scott O’Grady. One of my favorite parts of the book is when he describes the 45 minutes he took to just sit up. He was hiding for days, and any sudden movement might be detected. He was trained in evasion. By slowly, slowly, inch by inch, moving just a little, he would eventually rise up to be able to see what, who was around. Amazing. Wonderful.


28 posted on 06/30/2024 7:57:49 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: McGruff

You’re as delusional as Putin is


29 posted on 07/01/2024 6:42:28 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: delta7

Russia is getting weaker by the day with this War

China is just laughing and rubbing their hands with glee at Russia’s ongoing failures, it won’t be long before they can easily take over Siberia!

LOL


30 posted on 07/01/2024 6:44:26 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Russia is getting weaker by the day with this War
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Maybe, maybe not. What is clear, Ukraine physically lies in ruins, no electricity, billions in unpayable debt, manpower depleted, 16-20 million Ukrainians that fled will not be returning.

Fact: Ukraine is on Western life support, a total, 100 percent, begging, corrupted, welfare nation….all the while Vlad continues to generate revenue ( record $70 billion last month)….

You have been fooled by senile Joe and his war:

“ it is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled”.

Do realize St Z’s signature will not be on their surrender document, Vlad’s signature will….carry on.


31 posted on 07/01/2024 6:59:05 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

The war will last until it is no longer useful.
1. When Right wing people are elected in Europe. (it is coming)—Le Pen in France and Nigel Frage in UK.
2.When Joe is ousted by Hillary/Pelosi and a new leader found.
3. Stock market crashed like 2008. Jobs lost.
4. A military coup by the Joint Chiefs takes over with president Millie.
5. China funds a Peace Movement in the USA.
6. Trump wins big.


32 posted on 07/01/2024 7:17:35 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell)
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To: FlyingEagle

The war is in, I believe, its last phases. The end game that wants to grab land, steal weapons, and set up the rebuilding.
Putin’s new Russia will be rebuilt as a resort. No guerilla war, no further aggression—here. Latvia may well be targeted in time. Putin/Trump summit will set the stage for a new peace. Next country to expand will be China as it quickly takes Taiwan—in a coup from within.


33 posted on 07/01/2024 7:35:17 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell)
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