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War or Peace? Towards a Ukrainian Peace or a Direct NATO-Russian War
Sott ^ | 28 June 25 | Gordon Han

Posted on 06/30/2024 11:21:19 AM PDT by delta7

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Yep! Just like senile Joe’s Afghanistan and Covid vax hoax debacle, his Ukie war will go down in history as the first domino to fall……

Post war analysis will be chilling.

1 posted on 06/30/2024 11:21:19 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Any solution to the war in Ukraine is on hold until Trump wins in November.
He will end the war before he takes office.
For sure, and they all know this.


2 posted on 06/30/2024 11:28:03 AM PDT by Thapsus_epiphany (Socialism is a prison, Communism is a death camp )
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To: delta7

Biden expiring before our very eyes last Thursday brings this FJB Marxist Junta MIC NATO proxy war to an end in-situ.

Russia will grab a few final goodies, maybe Odessa? before Trump steps in and ends it all.


3 posted on 06/30/2024 11:49:53 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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A helluva cudgel to protect their enclave in ukeland.

It’ll work, too.


4 posted on 06/30/2024 12:14:53 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: delta7

China just transferred or provided Russia with the first Y20A Transport Plane a few hours ago.*

*Looks likes sacntions on aircraft are now broken.

A like to this beast similar to the C5A Galaxy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ddKA-nRwk


5 posted on 06/30/2024 12:21:57 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: delta7

Zelenski is the man without a home and has been that way since his departure over 30 days ago form Ukraine. The Ghost of Kiev;)


6 posted on 06/30/2024 12:22:58 PM PDT by Jumper
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As soon as Russia returns behind its international borders of 2012 all will be well and peace will rein.


7 posted on 06/30/2024 12:26:51 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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It’s probably worth noting that if the Neocons had accepted Putin’s offer, chances are that Putin would have been kicked out of office, due to accepting too little for all the effort and lives already expended there. And isn’t their dream to oust Putin from power?

Funny how the Neocons ALWAYS manage to look a gift-horse in the mouth.


8 posted on 06/30/2024 12:34:42 PM PDT by BobL
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As soon as Russia returns behind its international borders of 2012 all will be well and peace will rein.

As soon as Vicky Nuland, the deep state, MIC and NATO undo the 2014 Maidan rebellion coup all will be well and peace will rein.

9 posted on 06/30/2024 12:45:43 PM PDT by CapandBall
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Any solution to the war in Ukraine is on hold until Trump wins in November. He will end the war before he takes office. For sure, and they all know this.

The Ukrainian Army needs to hold on to their 620-mile front in Ukraine. It's likely the Russians will make two more pushes, one during the summer and the last one before the ceasefire by early 2025.

10 posted on 06/30/2024 12:49:38 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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I wasted time and bandwidth reading this? A wordy recapitulation of GRU/Putin talking points from an obscure conspiracy "news" site is the best the Russian sycophancy can do on a Sunday?

I demand compensation!

11 posted on 06/30/2024 1:13:37 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. )
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To: PIF
You're as delusional as Zelensky is.
12 posted on 06/30/2024 1:17:28 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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......It's likely the Russians will make two more pushes, one during the summer and the last one before the ceasefire by early 2025.

Steal as much as they can, then give back 10% and say "See? We made a concession".

13 posted on 06/30/2024 1:18:01 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. )
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The Russians are not capable of seizing much territory through their offensives.

If they're lucky, they may seize the equivalent of Manhattan by early 2025.

The West will continue to pour in weapons so the lines will continue to hold for the Ukrainians.

14 posted on 06/30/2024 1:23:12 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Presidental elections must precede any peace deal. Ukrainians get to vote on who they want leading the negotiations.


15 posted on 06/30/2024 1:23:15 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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most of which were agreed upon by Kiev and Moscow in Istanbul in March-April 2022

Complete bs. Polish Foreign Minister who helped transport the Ukraine delegation said:

Jakub Kumoch reveals the backstage of the negotiations. Russia did not want peace, only the capitulation of UkraineRussia did not want peace, only the capitulation of Ukraine.

Jakub Kumoch, former Secretary of State of President Andrzej Duda, who accompanied the Ukrainian delegation to negotiations with Russia in Belarus and Turkey in the spring of 2022, told the newspaper The Polish Times.

Let us call it mildly: singularly. It was a draft with the comments of both sides. The document was clearly prepared before the Russian invasion and by the Russians. He provided, among other things, the recognition of the annexation of Crimea, the so-called independence of the eastern regions of Ukraine, the reduction of the size of the Ukrainian army, bilingualism, the ban on joining NATO, perpetual neutrality, etc. There were also purely demeaning elements, such as a commitment to denazification or the introduction of the Great Patriotic War, as the Russians call their contribution to World War II. Things that A State never imposes on State B. Meanwhile, Russia has brought in the entire list of laws that Ukraine is to change. It began with the Constitution.

https://i.pl/jakub-kumoch-ujawnia-kulisy-negocjacji-rosja-nie-chciala-pokoju-tylko-kapitulacji-ukrainy/ar/c1p2-26324503


16 posted on 06/30/2024 1:25:42 PM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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As soon as Vicky Nuland, the deep state, MIC and NATO undo the 2014 Maidan rebellion coup all will be well and peace will rein.

Yup, Spain once had a coup, therefore all subsequent free and fair elections to the present day are null and void. Makes sense

17 posted on 06/30/2024 1:30:25 PM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: Thapsus_epiphany

When Trump was President, oil was cheap, and war is expensive.


18 posted on 06/30/2024 1:49:18 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: FlyingEagle

If I was Xi, I would be planning on expanding China’s borders to the west.


19 posted on 06/30/2024 1:55:24 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald )
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To: PIF

Pollyanna stupid on a Sunday afternoon.
Sun is a blazin’ rainbow skittles.

“As soon as Russia returns behind its international borders of 2012 all will be well and peace will rein.”


20 posted on 06/30/2024 2:05:15 PM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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