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US army awards Lockheed Martin $4.5 billion multi-year Patriot Missiles contract
Reuters ^ | 6/28/24 | Reuters

Posted on 06/29/2024 8:49:53 PM PDT by hardspunned

June 28 (Reuters) - The U.S. Army awarded Lockheed Martin a multi-year contract worth $4.5 billion for its air defense Patriot Missiles system, the Pentagon said on Friday. The Patriot system is one of an array of sophisticated air defense units supplied by the West to help Ukraine, as it continues its defense against Russia's invasion. The contract covers 870 PAC-3 MSE missiles and associated hardware.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: dodindustrialcomplex; russiaisbetter
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$5.2 million per missile! Two are fired for every $10,000 missile or $5000 drone. Who knows how many patriots they shoot at the ballistic and hypersonic missiles they are ineffective in stopping?
1 posted on 06/29/2024 8:49:53 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

My pension continues.


2 posted on 06/29/2024 8:57:18 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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To: hardspunned

Americans are being raped by the useless, bloated MIC that has not won a war in 60 years.


3 posted on 06/29/2024 8:57:30 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Lockheed is the largest contractor for both military and civilian contracts.

They are a critical player in the Deep State.

They have the kind of power that can determine whether Biden stays or goes.


4 posted on 06/29/2024 9:02:33 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: wildcard_redneck

The MIC has won every war—they have the balance sheets to prove it.


5 posted on 06/29/2024 9:03:30 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg

Time to crush Lockheed and to replace it with contractors that actually can build things that do not cost a $ kajillion.


6 posted on 06/29/2024 9:04:19 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Good luck finding someone not on Lockheed’s payroll—directly or indirectly.

See my tagline.

Lockheed is Exhibit 1.


7 posted on 06/29/2024 9:06:03 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: hardspunned

Well at least they didn’t give the contract to Boeing. They can’t seem to engineer and a build an airplane that can fly anymore. “Well there’s hours of time on the telephone line to talk about things to come
Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground”. James Taylor


8 posted on 06/29/2024 9:06:31 PM PDT by kawhill (kawhill)
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To: rktman

Me Too
Go to have FR company

KC


9 posted on 06/29/2024 9:18:53 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: hardspunned

These aren’t used on drones typically.
Cruise missiles are their usual diet, with an occasional aircraft or ballistic missile.


10 posted on 06/29/2024 9:21:12 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: cgbg

The whole defense industry is a skin-tag on the body of the US economy. Or, say, its like Jupiters moon Io vs Jupiter itself. The US government regulates it all, the whole economy, and the leeches live off exploiting regulations, legal cases, consultancies, etc and etc. They are attached to every organ in that huge body, not just defense contractors.

It helps to research the whole, to gain perspective. One place to start is with US medical spending. Just one piece of it, but much, much larger than defense.

Lockheed is a tiny, tiny thing, and 4.5 billion is small change.


11 posted on 06/29/2024 9:30:35 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: wildcard_redneck

“MIC that has not won a war in 60 years.”

Which one did they win in 1964 ?


12 posted on 06/29/2024 9:46:32 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: wildcard_redneck

Ive worked in that industry.

Problems -
- Specs are always changing due to ongoing R&D, and R&D costs tend to be absorbed by contracts like this. There are multi-layers of upgrades and tech integration ongoing. This is a complex system with radars, multiple datalinks, etc.
- This is not continuous production but batch production, in which a lot of facilities need to be stood up again for each contract. Inefficient, as far as unit costs go.
- Order numbers are very small. 800-odd units for a very complex device like this is going to give you a very high unit cost. They should have ordered 10,000.

You are welcome to indulge yourself in freestyle performative rage. Will you get an 8.5 or better? Its up to the judges!

Or you can try understand what’s going on.


13 posted on 06/29/2024 9:46:32 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

The rip-off dance takes 2 partners, the government and the contractor. We should fire 90% of the Pentagon civilian drones and pass a law that former government officials cannot serve on corporate boards for 10 years after retirement.


14 posted on 06/29/2024 9:51:37 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: hardspunned

At least is the system going to be updated versions?


15 posted on 06/29/2024 9:53:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

๐Ÿ˜‚. I worked Space Systems for 36 yrs.


16 posted on 06/29/2024 10:30:47 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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Oh! So your FR name isn’t short for Racketman and you aren’t in the mob? All this time I was afraid you would have me whacked if we disagreed about something.


17 posted on 06/29/2024 10:33:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: cgbg

Whose phone calls get picked up?

This is a decent priority list. Revenues are a good metric, because that’s what’s being skimmed.

https://companiesmarketcap.com/largest-companies-by-revenue/page/2/

All the US defense businesses are on page 2 or worse.


18 posted on 06/29/2024 10:41:54 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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“They should have ordered 10,000.”


They are incapable of building volumes anything close to that.

And have been since the Vietnam War ended.


19 posted on 06/29/2024 10:49:54 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

The ability to build those volumes begins with ordering such volumes. That justifies investment, etc.

As for capacity in aerospace, the capacity crash happened post-1991.


20 posted on 06/29/2024 10:52:31 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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