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Donald Trump should run on winning the Ukraine war
NY Post ^ | 06/24/2024 | Isaac Schorr

Posted on 06/24/2024 11:20:53 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

“We know only too well that war comes not when the forces of freedom are strong but when they are weak,” declared Ronald Reagan at the 1980 Republican National Convention.

“It is then that tyrants are tempted,” he added, summing up his conviction that peace could only be secured through strength.

Until Donald Trump followed in Reagan’s footsteps as the GOP’s standard-bearer, this formulation was axiomatic on the American right.

But Trump’s careless rhetoric — which often flirted with isolationism and flattered America’s sworn enemies in Moscow and Pyongyang — emboldened the Republican Party’s isolationist wing.

In an op-ed endorsing Trump last year, Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance — a reportedly top contender in Trump’s veepstakes who’s called depriving Ukraine of aid his second-biggest priority in Congress — identified the former president’s supposed break with the “hawkishness” of the “foreign policy establishment” as his greatest achievement in the White House.

Au contraire, Sen. Vance.

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What does victory for Ukraine even look like Isaac?? Show your work.
1 posted on 06/24/2024 11:20:53 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Nope.
GWB tried it.
It didn’t go well.


2 posted on 06/24/2024 11:23:01 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They will never beat Russia by conventional means.


3 posted on 06/24/2024 11:24:12 AM PDT by toddausauras (Trump 2024)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The neocons love recasting Reagan as hell-bent on starting wars around the world. Ronald Reagan would’ve been sickened at the idea of supporting the embers of nazism and pursuing war with Russia for no reason.


4 posted on 06/24/2024 11:25:38 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Its Rupert Murdoch and New Corp once again protecting themselves, and sucking-up the DC Swamp in matters that really matter to the US deep-state


5 posted on 06/24/2024 11:25:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Trump should be more aggressive in sending F-15s and tanks to Ukraine, if he’s the POTUS.


6 posted on 06/24/2024 11:29:19 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ChicagoConservative27

When they speak of “winning” the war, it tells me they are thinking one thing only, and that is removing Putin from power and installing a WEF, Ivy League Russian as a puppet. That of course ignores the stark reality that anyone even remotely likely to replace Putin would be far more hard line.


7 posted on 06/24/2024 11:29:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What retard wrote this dumb crap?


8 posted on 06/24/2024 11:30:00 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (1218 - NEVER FORGET!)
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....nearly all Trump’s successes in shaping world events stemmed not from his aforementioned flirtations with the Buchananite right but from his willingness to outhawk the hawks Vance loathes and embrace a radical Reaganite foreign policy.

Would give me much more confidence in him if I could be sure he would act this way as 47, repudiating the surrender monkeys Vance is playing to.

9 posted on 06/24/2024 11:30:46 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. More please!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Trump should run on letting Russia have all of Europe.


10 posted on 06/24/2024 11:32:23 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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So now we are on to F-15s for the Reich? As far as I know we have sold those to grand total of three nations, the Israelis, the Saudis and the Japanese.

Not exactly the kind of aircraft you give to Ukrainians. It’s going to be such a disappointment to you guys when Trump doesn’t turn out in shining armor, sword held high, hot to wage war against Russia.


11 posted on 06/24/2024 11:33:07 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: isthisnickcool

“What retard wrote this dumb crap?”

If they want to commit suicide they need to leave the rest of us out of it.


12 posted on 06/24/2024 11:33:18 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Trump has nothing but contempt for the Ukraine that colluded to impeach him twice. Trump is going to be left with an American increasing isolated from the world both financially and in trade. The DNC is burning America and world to ground as they lose power.

Trump needs to simply state he will force an end to the war by telling Ukraine to negotiate. He has stated this is NATOs fault.

Ukraine lost 2,000 on Sunday, 1800 Saturday and 14,000 in preceeding 7 day period on the line of contact not counting missile and FAB strikes.

This war will be settled for all intents and purposes in 6 week’s because Ukraine is going to lose 4-5k a day when Russian offensive intensity happens. 100,000 dead per month is 3,333 +1 day.


13 posted on 06/24/2024 11:34:14 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Probably the only reason I wouldn’t vote for him.


14 posted on 06/24/2024 11:34:40 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Lol, retarded.


15 posted on 06/24/2024 11:38:48 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What does victory for Ukraine even look like Isaac??


Pride Parades in Kiev.


16 posted on 06/24/2024 11:38:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Define “winning.”


17 posted on 06/24/2024 11:39:33 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Victory for Ukraine would be for Russia to give back all Ukrainian territory it has seized. I don’t see that happening. I doubt if President Trump sees that happening either.


18 posted on 06/24/2024 11:40:21 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s a ludicrous notion, born in Pollyanna’s young mind.


19 posted on 06/24/2024 11:40:24 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Zathras

No, HE WILL END IT.


20 posted on 06/24/2024 11:42:14 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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