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To: wildcard_redneck
wildcard "the front keeps moving west"

Really?

The front actually moved east

Or perhaps you want to stick to 2024, as you may have short term memory, right?

There are movements around Avdiivka and Bakhmut, but those are barely movements even compared to WWI

25 posted on 06/20/2024 7:47:18 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos

“those are barely movements even compared to WWI”

A Russian offense tends to obliterate everything in its path.

All the Russians typically have to show for an offensive is rubble, dead bodies and burnt-out tanks.

Russia now prefers to simply blast away Ukrainian front lines by the kilometer.


37 posted on 06/20/2024 8:03:36 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Cronos

Taking land is not Russia’s daily tactical objective in this war. It is to kill the Ukrainian military. Russia has stated this in the Duma and in the press numerous times. Americans and the Western countries only think of taking land as the source of winning in a conflict. Today, the EU, US and NATO is watching in horror as Russia puts the finishing touches on destroying the remaining 380,000 Ukrainian military. The Russia upped their Kill Targers from 800-1600 a day to double only four weeks about. They are making their kill shots of the Ukrainian military count.

As Ukraine surges into pre-planned Russian Artillery and Kill Boxs, it only makes Russia’s job easier.

When the bottom falls out of this in the next 3-6 weeks, all those Western Ideas of Victory, e.g., Land Captured will come shocking fast and easy - simply because Ukraine surged to the front leaving nothing in reserve.

De Furher II Zelenski has been outside Ukraine since he departed immediately after 21 May when he was considered illegimate by half the world. When will the little green vampire return to Ukraine? Is he a coward who hides in the West?

Ukraine will be settled, for all intents and purposes by October. Russia gave them a chance to negotiate. Now Washington will have to settle for a battlefield loss.


45 posted on 06/20/2024 8:22:17 AM PDT by Jumper
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