Posted on 06/18/2024 11:46:49 PM PDT by mbrfl
” I’d fight tooth and nail for my freedom.”
Sure you would.
So many internet tough guys, where others are supposed to fight and die for American NeoCon vanity.
While they are safe behind thousands of miles of Pacific Ocean.
“ If totally buying into the neocon world view and endless wars makes someone a warmonger that might be you”
First response, you go off the rails. What does that have to do with the history of Taiwan?
You repeat Beijing narrative and talking point unquestionably.
With zero actual knowledge of the issue or history.
Taiwan has never been part of China.
Chinese people first began going there to work when the Dutch set up a colony there in 1620 or so.
About 40 years later the Manchus defeated the Qing and a half Chinese Half Japanese pirate, who was opposed to the new Qing Dynasty, defeated the Dutch, who left, and set up his own kingdom on Taiwan. Certain Chinese people continued settling in Taiwan.
After about 40 years the Manchus were able to wrest control of the Chinese parts of Taiwan. Certain Chinese continued to move to and settle Taiwan.
Manchus eventually ceded Taiwan to Japan in 1895 via treaty. Taiwanese in response formed the Taiwan Republic and resisted the Japanese, who were able to defeat Taiwan in less than a year.
Japan surrendered in 1945.
Allies occupied Taiwan, Chiang Kai-shek as per general order 1 occupied, and administered Taiwan.
Subsequently Chiang Kai-shek lost to the communists and moved the government to Taiwan along with about a million people in 1949/50. There were about 6 million Taiwanese living there at the time, still legally Japanese nationality.
In 1951 Japan signed the surrender Treaty relinquishing sovereignty over Taiwan which went in to effect in 1952.
That’s where it stands today.
Taiwan had no part in the Chinese Revolution, formation of Republic of China, nor the civil war.
China has no claim on Taiwan and you don’t have to repeat their narrative and talking points and false analogies as if they are true.
Maybe you just don’t know better. Now you do.
Rule 1 - Do not accept what communists say as truthful or accurate.
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“ It is in the interest of Taiwan to do the deal.”
I asked if you would do the deal.
Let’s address that before we examine if your above assertion holds water.
You’re the one who started the going off the rails and have ramped up the criticisms and have totally missed the point of my posts and ignored other parts that explain my position.
Keep going I don’t care; you just make yourself smaller and smaller.
I believe there will be no military invasion within the time frame you noted.
Am willing to wager to that effect with interested parties.
If I was in Taiwan I would do the deal.
It is not in the interest of Taiwan to fight and die uselessly, have their country destroyed just to flatter the egos of American NeoCons who risk nothing.
I didn’t ask if you were Taiwan. I ask if you would.
If the neocons threatened to destroy and takeover and install totalitarian rule over you, would you accept it for the sake of not having your “country destroyed?”
You. Your country.
Would you accept sharia so the Islamos won’t attack?
Etc…
No comment on Taiwan’s history or the false claims made by Red China vis-a-vis Taiwan?
Keep going you only make yourself look small.
How so?
It’s self-evident.
Yes.
Remember that about a million ROC went to Taiwan after they lost the war in 1949 and there were already 6 million Taiwanese there who were part of Japan.
ROC were able to retreat to Taiwan because they were the Allied occupying force of that part of Japan after surrender in 1945.
>>”It is not in the interest of Taiwan to fight and die uselessly, have their country destroyed just to flatter the egos of American NeoCons who risk nothing.”
Is that what you think they’d be fighting for? (i.e. to flatter the egos of American NeoCons?). Is it just possible that there are Taiwanese who have their own reasons for resisting the Chicoms? Is it possible there are some who would resist because they don’t want to be subjects of the CCP? Yes, I think so.
I’m in Canada. We are under near totalitarian rule already. (so is the USA, but they let you keep your guns so you can pretend you are not).
I’m not going to martyr myself to gratify American NeoCons.
Directly chanllenging the Regime now, you end up like the truckers, or the J6 people, or Craig Robertson.
I believe this Regime is near collapse, anyway.
The DC Globohomo Regime is near collapse, and colonial outposts like the Canadian Regime will go with it.
Like China and Russia, those of us who hope for a future where the current Regime falls, and disappears, and is no more - we only have to wait.
” Is that what you think they’d be fighting for? “
Yes. Because they would lose anyway, and die uselessly with their country destroyed.
American NeoCons are so brave with other people’s lives, and live vicariously via the sacrifice and destruction of others, while you are safely behind your keyboards protected by thousands of miles of oceans.
We haven’t had a war on North America soil in 200 years.
American NeoCons think they will be so tough when the time comes. But we all saw what happened with the 2020 lockdowns and the 2020 election - nothing.
Canadians have their faults but vainglorious braggadocio is not one of them.
“ Directly chanllenging the Regime now, you end up like the truckers, or the J6 people, or Craig Robertson.”
Do you think Trump should just give up so they don’t put him in jail and stop prosecuting him?
” Do you think Trump should just give up so they don’t put him in jail and stop prosecuting him? “
No, but Trump is a billionire and has already spent over $100 million in legal fees.
The rest of us can’t afford that.
And if they put him in jail, all you big talkers will do nothing.
And neither will his useless REpub politician “allies”.
The Taiwanese will decide whether their independence is worth fighting for or not, not you or me. All the talk about American NeoCons, false bravado, etc. may be interesting, but is not particularly relevant to the Taiwanese. They have their own, much more personal interests that are at stake, and they will decide whether or not to resist the Chicoms for their own reasons. Pleasing American neo-cons doesn’t even make their top 20 list.
“ No, but Trump is a billionire and has already spent over $100 million in legal fees.”
I assume you mean Trump could potentially win so it’s worth it for him to fight and not give in.
Kind of only Goliath should fight Goliath because a David could never win?
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