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Associated Press Looks at the Gaza Casualty Numbers ... and found flaws in the Palestinian record keeping
Hotair ^ | 06/07/2024 | John Sexton

Posted on 06/07/2024 8:45:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Questions have been raised about the reliability of the casualty numbers coming from the Gaza Ministry of Health since last year. Some who've taken a closer look have argued that the figures don't add up. Last month even the United Nations appeared to adjust its figures when it stopped relying on those put out by a Hamas controlled PR office.

At this point, about a third of the people these groups have identified as war deaths lack either a name or an identification number. And if you look at the 2/3 of the figures that are considered confirmed, you find that fewer women and children (as a percentage) have been killed each month.

When Israel first responded to Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, which killed some 1,200 people, it launched an intense aerial bombardment on the densely populated Gaza Strip. Israel said its goal was to destroy Hamas positions, and the barrage cleared the way for tens of thousands of ground troops, backed by tanks and artillery.

The Gaza death toll rose quickly and by the end of October women and people 17 and younger accounted for 64% of the 6,745 killed who were fully identified by the Health Ministry...

As the intensity of fighting has scaled back, the death toll has continued to rise, but at a slower rate – and with seemingly fewer civilians caught in the crossfire. In April, women and children made up 38% of the newly and fully identified deaths, the Health Ministry’s most recent data shows.

These figures showing that the percentage of civilian deaths are declining each month don't match up with the claims repeatedly made by Hamas.

In February, ministry officials said 75% of the dead were women and children – a level that was never confirmed in the detailed reports. And as recently as March, the ministry’s daily reports claimed that 72% of the dead were women and children, even as underlying data clearly showed the percentage was well below that.

The AP also found other problems:

AP’s examination of the reports found flaws in the Palestinian record keeping. As Gaza’s hospital system collapsed in December and January, the ministry began relying on hard-to-verify “media reports” to register new deaths. Its March report included 531 individuals who were counted twice, and many deaths were self-reported by families, instead of health officials.

The AP report also notes that the Gaza health ministry doesn't keep a count of militants which means there is no agreed upon figure of the number who had died. Hamas once put the total at 20% or about 6,000. Israel says the number is around 15,000. US estimates are closer to the Israeli total, suggesting there are 9,000 to 12,000 Hamas fighters left from a starting point of 20-25,000.

The question now is whether this AP report will finally cause other news outlets to be more skeptical of the Hamas figures, especially the claims about the number of women and children killed. So far the media's willingness to take these numbers for granted is probably one of the major reasons Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar feels Hamas is winning this conflict.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Gaza; Hamas; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanpravda; ap; casualties; casualty; casualtynumbers; gaza; gazahealthministry; hamaslies; idf; israel

1 posted on 06/07/2024 8:45:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Whaaaat? No way. I can’t believe the Gaza Ministry of Health would lie to the public. /s


2 posted on 06/07/2024 8:49:14 PM PDT by princeofdarkness
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To: SeekAndFind

One, two, seventeen, thirty nine, sixty seven, hundred thirteen, one thirtynine, one seventy three,…”

Like that, right? , then add the columns and multiply by seven. Because accurate math doesn’t matter. Numbers do.


3 posted on 06/07/2024 8:51:26 PM PDT by drSteve78 ( Older Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: SeekAndFind

4 posted on 06/07/2024 9:00:24 PM PDT by BipolarBob (If at first you don't succeed then skydiving is not for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
suggesting there are 9,000 to 12,000 Hamas fighters left from a starting point of 20-25,000.

That's still a lot. As long as we are able to send them supplies, Hamas fighters will be able to hold out.

5 posted on 06/07/2024 9:02:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: drSteve78

One, two, seventeen, thirty nine, sixty seven, hundred thirteen, one thirtynine, one seventy three,…”

Just don’t let BiteMe near the counting...seventy gazillion...
438 Billion Trillion...


6 posted on 06/07/2024 9:13:48 PM PDT by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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7 posted on 06/07/2024 9:18:29 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SeekAndFind

I checked FR keyword HamasPropaganda, & found article from 4/14/2024 (I hope I remember correctly) that said Hamas admitted their Palestine death numbers were untrue. It takes AmericanPravda 2 months to admit they’re been printing anti-Semitic lies? Yeesh! Never again!!!


8 posted on 06/07/2024 9:31:41 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: SeekAndFind

They misspelled *lies*.


9 posted on 06/07/2024 9:37:35 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: SeekAndFind

Months ago there was a great analysis showing how obvious it is that their numbers are fake.


10 posted on 06/07/2024 11:06:11 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

There have been more deaths reported in Gaza than actual people living there. It’s like voting in Philadelphia.


11 posted on 06/08/2024 3:52:23 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The media has one job and even with Constitutional protections they cannot do it.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Michigan, if I remember correctly, has a 104% registration rate for eligible voters.


12 posted on 06/08/2024 6:13:18 AM PDT by themidnightskulker
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To: SeekAndFind

“…flaws in the Palestinian record keeping.”
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People who are willing, even eager, to brutally murder 1,200 people in a single day as part of a sick genocidal fantasy are necessarily going to look at lying as just another weapon in their arsenal. If Hamas said that the sky was blue, I would check before believing them.


13 posted on 06/08/2024 7:24:38 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a mathematical analysis using flawed data as a base. I am only impressed that the APee tried to tell the truth.

EC


14 posted on 06/08/2024 7:49:16 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: SeekAndFind

The AP, always on the tip top of truth, years after it doesn’t
matter anymore.


15 posted on 06/09/2024 10:45:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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